25NL 6m - AQo TPGK raised by unknown

Villain is totally unknown. Only 6 hands on him and he hasn't played a pot yet.

This probably too easy for you guys but this hand confused the hell out of me.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Button ($14.34)
Hero (SB) ($25.18)
BB ($25)
UTG ($25.67)
MP ($30.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.75, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3.60, Hero ???

Seems like raising in this spot only folds out worse and more often get shoved on by better.

Call or fold? If we call, what's our plan on turn and river?

i dont think this is easy dude. I would fold and hate life. but I feel like thats wrong. maybe call here chk call turn and fold river if he bets it, that seems expensive but its the best I got

Call because all other options are teh terribles. C/c pretty much all turns.

I'd go more in depth if I weren't posting from my phone

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Originally Posted by kickass

i dont think this is easy dude. I would fold and hate life. but I feel like thats wrong. maybe call here chk call turn and fold river if he bets it, that seems expensive but its the best I got

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Thanks kickass, nice to hear I'm not the only one. :)

Call because if he had the nuts, I d'ont think he will raise you on the flop. He may have a pocket pair he wants to protect. And shove on almost any turns

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Originally Posted by r1bassman

Call because if he had the nuts, I d'ont think he will raise you on the flop. He may have a pocket pair he wants to protect. And shove on almost any turns

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What's our turn and river plan then?

I never fold this against an unknown. You raised with AQ and hit an A, so I don't see why you would fold. If you are going to fold now, you may as well have played the same way with 72.

I call flop raise, check/call nearly all turns, and then check/re-evaluate river, depending on what he does and board texture.

What value hands do you think he plays like this?

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Originally Posted by Rage2100

I never fold this against an unknown. You raised with AQ and hit an A, so I don't see why you would fold. If you are going to fold now, you may as well have played the same way with 72.

I call flop raise, check/call nearly all turns, and then check/re-evaluate river, depending on what he does and board texture.

What value hands do you think he plays like this?

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The problem is that I don't have the tiniest clue what his range is and how he plays his range. Is he a reg? fish? Is he laggy? taggy? I only have 6 hands on him so it's really hard to answer your question. If any I'm actually looking for a default line in situations like this.
An alternative question probably is, against an unknown, what default range are we putting him on once when villain takes this line?

I agree calling the flop is best. My biggest problem in this hand is that I wasn't confident enough with my plan for turn and river. Thanks for validating my thoughts. c/c turn reevaluate riv is probably best. But then again I hate the "reevaluate" part since we could "probably" have avoided this if we knew villain's range (lots of rambling in this post).

I agree that it's hard to give villain a range when he is unknown, but there are just not many hands that anyone calls with pre-flop that are now beating you.

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Originally Posted by tiltingdonkey;2076193[B

]The problem is that I don't have the tiniest clue what his range is and how he plays his range. Is he a reg? fish? Is he laggy? taggy? I only have 6 hands on him so it's really hard to answer your question. If any I'm actually looking for a default line in situations like this.
An alternative question probably is, against an unknown, what default range are we putting him on once when villain takes this line?[/B]

I agree calling the flop is best. My biggest problem in this hand is that I wasn't confident enough with my plan for turn and river. Thanks for validating my thoughts. c/c turn reevaluate riv is probably best. But then again I hate the "reevaluate" part since we could "probably" have avoided this if we knew villain's range (lots of rambling in this post).

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he doesn't know precisely what your range is either when you call.

folding probably isn't really that bad of an idea though if he hasn't shown any form of aggression yet.

Have to call. Check turn and watch for bet sizing and timing, then you'll know what to do.

This hand confused me deeply. Is it terrible that I'd tend to fold here and get a read on villian for later play?

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Originally Posted by Angryafrican

This hand confused me deeply. Is it terrible that I'd tend to fold here and get a read on villian for later play?

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What read would you get from folding? That he has a raising range on the flop bvb?

Edit: I only noticed its BvB now. I'm an idiot, not payng attention. I'd call, call turn and c/f river. A river shove I have no idea.

Call and c/c the turn. River is tricky if he fires a large bet but he certainly may bet something like AT/AJ for 3 streets....

There are plenty of worse Ax's in his range I imagine...

I b/c flop but lost my balls to a pot-sized turn bet.