Drew's 1-1 V.2.0

They didn't last long the first time, but they're back.

After each session I'll be posting two hands. One of which I won and the other I lost. Feel free to critique as played and otherwise.

Hand 1)

Villain is a 19/11/3 reg over a lot of hands. BB vs steal stats are 79/15/6.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP3 ($42.15)
CO ($64.40)
Button ($88.50)
Hero (SB) ($110.60)
BB ($100)
UTG ($83.75)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($136.60)
MP2 ($113.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8:spade:, 7:spade:
7 folds, Hero bets $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8) 8:club:, K:club:, 9:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB raises $15, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($38) 6:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $18, Hero calls $18 Standard?

River: ($74) K:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $39, Hero? A call is tempting, is it not? He can't valuebet anything other than one of the two remaining kings.



Hand 2)

Villain is a loose newb preflop in the first 50 hands or so. I think his preflop range is pretty wide.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($40.45)
SB ($100)
BB ($83.95)
UTG ($52.45)
UTG+1 ($256.70)
MP1 ($34)
MP2 ($104.45)
Hero (MP3) ($100)
CO ($100)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J:club:, J:diamond:
4 folds, Hero bets $4, 3 folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($8.50) 9:spade:, 9:heart:, 10:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($18.50) 4:spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12

River: ($42.50) 4:club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises $62.95 (All-In), Hero calls $44.95

How often is this river c/r a bluff?

Total pot: $168.40

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Originally Posted by BankItDrew

How often is this river c/r a bluff?

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not nearly enough to justify a call

is there any merit in checking back river in H2 if we are never good when he c/r us? or he calls enough worse to make a b/f profitable?

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Originally Posted by Razvan729

is there any merit in checking back river in H2 if we are never good when he c/r us? or he calls enough worse to make a b/f profitable?

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He hasn't shown any evidence to have JJ beat up to this point so I can't check back, there's just too much value to be had. My river bet sizing was supposed to be a blocking bet against a c/r shove actually.

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Originally Posted by Razvan729

is there any merit in checking back river in H2 if we are never good when he c/r us? or he calls enough worse to make a b/f profitable?

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Just because we're never good when he c/r's us doesn't mean that a river bet is bad. If he only c/r's with better 20% of the time, but calls with worse 80% of the time etc etc.

calling flop OOP in hand1 makes me feel dirty, but as played I'm tempted to call with the billions of missed draws.

1 Fold flop call turn fold river

2 River is a bet/fold if you got no other info

And this isn't 2005, no need to make it 3.5 and 4x preflop

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

And this isn't 2005, no need to make it 3.5 and 4x preflop

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You don't think I get enough action?

hand 1 i'd fold flop. we are crushed vs any value range and are likely to face more barrels on later streets from any semi-bluffs.

hand 2 i think all streets are fine until you call river. this is very rarely a bluff from a weaker player, especially seeing as they will often flat-call A high (which is also why i like your river sizing)

i'd call down in hand one, and I think you won. The flop call is not that bad. I'd definitely call the river.

Hand two I guess you called and lost. It's probably a fold, but you should have bet 6 on the flop and more on the turn just to shove the river.

1 id fold flop unless we know he's light on flop a lot. preflop stats seem pretty passive
if he is, its a good hand to make a stand with. if we call turn, calling river - his value range is not tooooo wide, and fair few bluffs, good price

hand 2 foldin river- need a read to think fish c/r bluffin river