Quad 7s - Could I Have Got More Value Here

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Villain is 23/15/3 after 73 hands; kinda passive post-flop so far

UTG ($2.51)
MP ($8.11)
Hero (CO) ($15.10)
Button ($12.51)
SB ($5.16)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
UTG calls $0.05, MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.67) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold

I called here as I wanted him to lead Turn

Turn: ($1.57) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

No luck. So...sizing here? I want to keep him in the hand LDO

River: ($3.57) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero ???

Total pot: $3.57 | Rake: $0.17

$3

bet turn a little bigger
as played $3 on river is fine.

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Originally Posted by DoubleJ

kinda passive post-flop so far

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Don't expect this guy to lead the turn often. Multiway, I think flatting flop is OK but I'd probably raise.

3 on the river i think is a mistake.

Villain mostly has 2nd pair to the board or A high, so you want to bet something that gets called by 2nd pair. I would default to half pot or less, but it depends on what he thinks of you. If you want to bet $3, bet $2.8. A million supermarkets can't be wrong.
It's also a fun spot to overbet with your floats and nut hands because villains range is capped and he sets himself up for a guessing game on the river. You don't really want or need a bluffing range there at lolNL tho, so forget what I said.

wouldn't overbet here cause it's pretty hard to have pure floats in this spot

Good point.



I just want to add that I think $3 is bad in general, because 3.3 will get called with pretty much the same range, and 2.9 will get called with a wider range. I'm pretty sure I'm right on this, but I have nothing to back it up with other than a wikipedia link to a related subject with almost no useful information:
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$2.50 on river - nh - think about villain's river range and what sizing it can call.

Maybe even less given top of his range is like QQ.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

Maybe even less given top of his range is like QQ.

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this

If he's gonna call $2.50 wouldn't you think he'd call $2.80 ish?

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Originally Posted by Shotglass

If he's gonna call $2.50 wouldn't you think he'd call $2.80 ish?

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If he's gonna call $2.80 wouldn't he call $3.10?

If he calls $3.10 wouldn't he call $3.40?

Repeat a lot of times.

Shit we should just shove.....

Varies from villain to villain but my point I guess is that we could argue that for any bet size without really knowing where this villains inflection point is. Just gotta make a good estimate.

i wouldnt bet more than like 2.1 on this river

I like anything from 1.5-2$. I also might bet some stupidly small amount like 1.2$ to induce a raise with weaker hands.

f*ck it, let's check it back

i agree that more than $2.5 is too much here. we're basically only getting value from TT-QQ, and even some parts of that range may fold some non-zero %. i probably go $2.1

Is this an auction now?

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Originally Posted by oskar

Is this an auction now?

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Do I hear an overbet shove?

Sold!

Fuck it let's open fold

I would have just closed the table pre.

tree fiddy

This seems like a really easy, yank out ethernet cable/switch off wireless and email stars requesting the contents of the pot + 2bbs.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

This seems like a really easy, yank out ethernet cable/switch off wireless and email stars requesting the contents of the pot + 2bbs.

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but how will they get your email if you turned off your internets?

open shove pre you might hit quads

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Originally Posted by kickass

open shove pre you might hit quads

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how does this guy already have 15 posts?

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ftr is dead. long live ftr. ftr is dead. long live ftr.

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Originally Posted by baudib

Don't expect this guy to lead the turn often. Multiway, I think flatting flop is OK but I'd probably raise.

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I think this is the best option. I believe he would flat call a min-raise and probably would c/c the turn still. This means you could probably get away with a bigger bet, more than $2.50, on the flop. My range on villian would be AQ+, 88+, and Ax.

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Originally Posted by Magicman

I think this is the best option. I believe he would flat call a min-raise and probably would c/c the turn still. This means you could probably get away with a bigger bet, more than $2.50, on the flop. My range on villian would be AQ+, 88+, and Ax.

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????????? i maybe drunk but ya what?

I think if he min raised to $.90 on the flop then on the turn when he checks you could bet around $1.50 to bring the pot up to $5.47, if he calls. Then on the river you can bet $3 to $3.50 without him folding some pp's since he has already invested so much. I don't know, maybe I am the one drunk, kickass. xD

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Originally Posted by Carroters

we should just shove.....

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I think any bet between $2 and pot is no good