Rockets OOP versus King High Flop, 4-Bet Pot

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08-27-2011, 03:31 PM
DoubleJ

AA OOP versus King High Flop, 4-Bet Pot

Villain is 16/4/0 after 45
Haven't seen anything out of the ordinary...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($5.05)
UTG ($2.42)
MP ($3.07)
CO ($1.65)
Button ($0.93)
SB ($2.06)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
1 fold, MP bets $0.04, CO raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero ???

After his PF 3-bet his range ~ QQ+, AK, so I'm left cursing that I didn't 4-bet shove.

comments?
08-27-2011, 04:17 PM
bikes

dont call them rockets.
08-27-2011, 04:36 PM
nonofyobiz

not much goin on here, get it in.
08-27-2011, 04:52 PM
daven

bet turn $1 nh sir
08-27-2011, 06:45 PM
Carroters

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikes

dont call them rockets.

This.
08-27-2011, 06:48 PM
Carroters

If you have that good a read that he has QQ+ AK only then you could 4 bet shove, but a 45 hand sample with these stats isn't telling you that for sure. If MP is a drooler, getting him to come along is a great reason to take the line you took preflop even if you know 3 bettor is that tight, which you probably don't.

Bet turn, shove river.
08-27-2011, 07:12 PM
Nekrogovner

All seems fine. Bet, bet, bet. And really? Rockets? If you call them pocket anuses people would be less disguisted. :mrgreen:
08-27-2011, 07:14 PM
Carroters

Pocket clits imo.
08-27-2011, 07:17 PM
DoubleJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

This.

WAT?!

am doing me best to spik 'merican, and now i'm getting told off by a jock??

c'mon.....
08-27-2011, 07:22 PM
Carroters

Coincidentally, I'm about to board an AA flight in 20 mins. If you wanna use a donkfish name for aces, then I'd consider American Airlines more appropriate.
08-27-2011, 07:22 PM
DoubleJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekrogovner

All seems fine. Bet, bet, bet. And really? Rockets? If you call them pocket anuses people would be less disguisted. :mrgreen;

'kin 'ell

OK - mod please change the title of this thread to:

"verily, surely as night should follow day, one ayce did play 'pon the other.
Then sorely vexed was i to see but a wretched Kinge displayed"
08-27-2011, 07:24 PM
DoubleJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

..I'm about to board an AA flight in 20 mins...

ha

good luck getting a seat

and don't ask the geriatric trolley dollies for any drinks.

they hate that
08-27-2011, 07:24 PM
Carroters

Mod please change it to "POKAT ROKATS LOLOLOLOL"
08-27-2011, 07:28 PM
Carroters

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

ha

good luck getting a seat

and don't ask the geriatric trolley dollies for any drinks.

they hate that

They printed a seat on my ticket so I'm trusting that means something at least. I hope I meet some kowbois and sum laides on this AA flight. Maybe I'll have a big slick seat with a recliner and an ash trey so I can smoke. I'll have to ask them for some orange deuce because I'm pretty thirsty.
08-27-2011, 07:29 PM
Carroters

Hopefully my plane doesn't go the same way as this thread....nam sayin?
08-27-2011, 07:38 PM
DoubleJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

...If you wanna use a donkfish name for aces...

w/e

stop ragging on me and have a word with your mate BooG:

Rockets or Pocket Rockets refers to the preflop hand of aces (AA).

Example: It is hard for me to control myself when I look down at my cards and see rockets!

Created by BooG690 on 22 Jul, 2009
08-27-2011, 07:52 PM
Nekrogovner

I think there has been a misunderstanding.
08-27-2011, 09:49 PM
Micro2Macro

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikes

dont call them rockets.

this
08-28-2011, 12:00 AM
supa

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

w/e

stop ragging on me and have a word with your mate BooG:

Rockets or Pocket Rockets refers to the preflop hand of aces (AA).

Example: It is hard for me to control myself when I look down at my cards and see rockets!

Created by BooG690 on 22 Jul, 2009

Let me clear up the confusion. A pocket rocket is an american term for a penis. When Boog was overheard saying he loves pocket rockets, he created this definition as a cover story.
08-28-2011, 12:52 AM
DoubleJ

:D
08-28-2011, 01:20 AM
Carroters

If I've learned one thing in all my days, it's never to justify anything based on what BooGer says. EG. He says "cawfee" and "Ey Joey can I get some pizza over here!"
08-28-2011, 01:57 AM
rong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

Coincidentally, I'm about to board an AA flight in 20 mins. If you wanna use a donkfish name for aces, then I'd consider American Airlines more appropriate.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
08-28-2011, 01:58 AM
Carroters

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanAronG

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wut? True story!
08-28-2011, 04:31 AM
DoubleJ

[meanwhile, back at the original thread....]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

If you have that good a read that he has QQ+ AK only then you could 4 bet shove, but a 45 hand sample with these stats isn't telling you that for sure....

So...how would you range this guy, then?

[edit after supa's advice]

So...what kind of range would you put this guy on, then, please?

he's played it tight over 45 hands, 3-bet MP's min-raise, and then called my 4-bet, and then my c-bet....

thoughts?
08-28-2011, 05:19 AM
supa

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

thoughts?

Yeah, stop using range as a verb.
08-28-2011, 06:52 AM
Petulie

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

So...what kind of range would you put this guy on, then, please?

he's played it tight over 45 hands, 3-bet MP's min-raise, and then called my 4-bet, and then my c-bet....

Try putting him on a range yourself and folk can help adjust this.

Regards villain's stats, did he have tendencies to open limp, limp along, or call min/decent raises? This can give insight to his raising range. If he is an open limper, this can significantly tighten his raising range. Any preflop 3bet/fold to cbet stats? Not sure how useful these may be given the small sample size though...

As for how the hand played out, how many combinations of either this range or the one you originally assigned villain beat you? What worries you about the turn card? How does this fit into his range?
08-28-2011, 07:28 AM
Nekrogovner

I'm not really sure why are you giving so much thought to this hand. If villain flatted your 4bet with KK, take a note and thats it. Otherwise, at NL2, this is really no brainer. If you ask me, this guy might be dumb enough to pay you up with KQ.
08-28-2011, 07:41 AM
Petulie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nekrogovner

I'm not really sure why are you giving so much thought to this hand. If villain flatted your 4bet with KK, take a note and thats it. Otherwise, at NL2, this is really no brainer. If you ask me, this guy might be dumb enough to pay you up with KQ.

Agree. Clearly there's some confusion if it's been posted though, so just trying to help him work this out.
08-28-2011, 05:20 PM
Shotglass

I can't believe that this thread got to this many posts already.
What's the big confusion? He's got like $0.95 left on a blank turn (~65% pot). Get it in there.

:puke: if he's got a set and move on 'cause it's not the last time it's gonna happen.
08-28-2011, 06:26 PM
Roid_Rage

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikes

dont call them rockets.

Was just about to post this, thank you.