3b pot annoying riv card 150deep. 100nl

So I'll post our previous 3b pot hand.


€0.50/€1 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG (€172.80)
CO (€100.15)
BTN (€104.95)
SB (€144)
AnTman_69 (BB) (€100)

Pre-Flop: (€1.50, 5 players) AnTman_69 is BB :ks: :kh:
UTG raises to €3, 3 folds, AnTman_69 raises to €10, UTG calls €7

Flop: :4c: :3c: :5s: (€20.50, 2 players)
AnTman_69 bets €13, UTG calls €13

Turn: :8c: (€46.50, 2 players)
AnTman_69 bets €24, UTG calls €24

River: :5c: (€94.50, 2 players)
AnTman_69 checks, UTG checks

Final Pot: €94.50
AnTman_69 shows two pair, Kings and Fives
:ks: :kh:
UTG shows
:js: :8s:


Villy is playing 40/25 and from what i've seen over our first 100 hands, he's pretty spewy. Although i haven't caught him bluffing yet he's splashing his money around a fair bit and also likes the call btn a bit much.


€0.50/€1 No Limit Holdem
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO (€185.85)
BTN (€38.50)
SB (€203.10)
AnTman_69 (BB) (€156.70)

Pre-Flop: (€1.50, 4 players) AnTman_69 is BB :kc: :qs:
CO raises to €3, 2 folds, AnTman_69 raises to €10, CO calls €7

Flop: :qc: :jh: :5c: (€20.50, 2 players)
AnTman_69 bets €14, CO calls €14

Turn: :3c: (€48.50, 2 players)
AnTman_69 bets €35, CO calls €35

River: :ad: (€118.50, 2 players)
.....?

Probably C/F unless he gives you ridiculous odds

i like cc down in hand 2.

given hand 1 he might be flatting your 3bet with 40% of hands and then calling flop with any gutter, any pair, any draw, any bdfd, any A high. id let him turn them into a bluff.

as played cc river and expect to see hands like J7o, T9, 9c8x, K9 with club.

I would agree, but if he's at all capable of turning hands into bluffs, I'd expect him to take the opportunity in the first hand, given that, I'd expect him to check back any hand with showdown value which is worse than ours. The only draw he can really have that is complete air now is 10 9, 8 9 and K9, and he seems to be more cally than aggressive.

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Originally Posted by sauce123

i like cc down in hand 2.

given hand 1 he might be flatting your 3bet with 40% of hands and then calling flop with any gutter, any pair, any draw, any bdfd, any A high. id let him turn them into a bluff.

as played cc river and expect to see hands like J7o, T9, 9c8x, K9 with club.

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given that this guy seems passive (example 1), and might be even more so because theyre deep, would it be better to b/f something like 22-24 coz he'll never bluff raise. I would expect ppl like this to bet AcX ( which he could have a lot) and check back worse. thoughts ?

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

I would agree, but if he's at all capable of turning hands into bluffs, I'd expect him to take the opportunity in the first hand, given that, I'd expect him to check back any hand with showdown value which is worse than ours. The only draw he can really have that is complete air now is 10 9, 8 9 and K9, and he seems to be more cally than aggressive.

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I agree with this.

I don't think shoving the river is terrible either. It's more likely he calls with J7 than bets when checked to.

Additionally, IME playing a little at these stakes and coaching them a lot, just because someone will float the flop light doesn't necessarily mean that he is going to float the turn light as well. (Obv his flop float in hand 1 is ridiculous, but he did have top pair on the turn.)