Tough river situation

UTG
110 hands. Seems solid and straight forward.
VPIP 31%/20%. Doesn't seem to play position, more a 'cards' man from what I've seen. I put him on any pp or AQo+, possibly Axs as he seems to like those from what I've seen.

CO
I've got 50 hands. Maniac. VPIP 59%/21% AFq 82% AF 7 overall. 1st time I'd seen him reraise with lots of chances. I put him on a high pocket pair or AJ+ (premium for him!). I've seen him pfr with everything from 79s up and limp with anything but the raise makes me suspicious.

I figure with the aggression, I could well be paid off if I hit my set and the odds looked good vs stacks

$0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

SB: $6.03
Hero (BB): $10.67
UTG: $6.00
MP: $6.00
CO: $11.48
BTN: $6.00

SB posts SB $0.03, Hero posts BB $0.06

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero has 9:club: 9:spade:

UTG raises to $0.21, fold, CO raises to $0.36, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($1.11, 3 players) J:heart: 9:diamond: 8:club:
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55, UTG calls $0.55

Exactly what I put him to do, the aggressive maniac plays to plan. I didn't want to reraise to scare off the 3rd to try to build a pot & get the stack(s) but mainly the maniac's. I'm thinking he's got AJ or QQ+. He might have JJ but I'm doubtful. He could have a straight as he can be wild, but I can pair the board for a boat. I've seen him bet top pair like a true nutter - happy to get all in when he can...

Turn: ($2.76, 3 players) 8:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.38, Hero calls $1.38, fold

Awesome, this makes my boat and I'm thinking this could pay well. I was planning a reraise on the river (he will bet) or call a shove.

River: ($5.52, 2 players) J:spade:

FFS... This makes any J a winner Jacks over 8s. I'm in a real pickle. I want to check it down.

Hero checks, CO bets all in in $9.19,

There goes my check option. What the heck ... I slow played the boat and think I got counterfeited on the river card. There's a very good chance he hit the river given his bet. An over pair just doesn't seem to fit the bet since any J or 8 (and I'm calling with something) makes the FH. Maybe pocket 8s or Js but I discount those since he didn't pot bet to get me committed - I figure he doesn't think like that & the bet represents the strong hand, AJ or KJ.

Any thoughts? What do I do??

shove turn... CO is calling any Jx,8x,straights sometimes even OESD/FD .

c/r flop to like $1.4
as played c/r turn to like $3.5
as played fold

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Originally Posted by bikes

c/r flop to like $1.4
as played c/r turn to like $3.5
as played fold

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Agree. On a board like this against 2 opponents we want to force draws out and make them call with worse

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Originally Posted by Moradis

UTG
CO
I've got 50 hands. Maniac. VPIP 59%/21% AFq 82% AF 7 overall. 1st time I'd seen him reraise with lots of chances. I put him on a high pocket pair or AJ+ (premium for him!). I've seen him pfr with everything from 79s up and limp with anything but the raise makes me suspicious.

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I'm not checking this flop ever...nor am i folding the river. How often does he 3bet PF? Not much? Then his PF 3bet looks too much like a strong pp. A lot? Then Jx is just as likely as 8x.
I'm not good enough to lay this down.

I'm with bikes on everything except folding the river.

Thanks for the thoughts - so the concensus is I should have pushed them much harder to get them in on either the flop or river (although the full house beat most draws). The reason I was reluctant to push was I've c/raised the maniac once on the turn & he snap folded where I've seen him tripple barrel uncontested with air. That said, 50 hands isn't much to go by & one instance doesn't make a pattern, just a dot.

Had I got him all in and he happened to have 88 or a J so be it.

What I actually did was layit down (nearly crying...)

Thanks all.

C/R flop. so many turn cards that either make your hand second best, or kill your action. as played definitely C/R turn.