TPTK deep turn action

UTG was 68/58/10 (40 hands)
CO was 36/7/1
SB 25/17/1 18% agg frequency 9130 hands)
BB 47/12/2

no big notes on any of the players.

Preflop may be a 3bet to iso the aggro fish utg, I'm not sure. Obv bet on flop for value and turn i think as well, but is a fold standard on the turn? villain could be shoving FDs but given that he had pretty low agg numbers i was unsure.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($109.65)
BB ($119.80)
UTG ($117.65)
MP ($131.65)
CO ($159.10)
Hero (Button) ($97.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif
UTG bets $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB calls $3.75, BB calls $3.50

Flop: ($20.60) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $12, 3 folds

Turn: ($44.60) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB raises to $93.55 (All-In), [color=#666666]

3bet preflop, bet bigger on the flop and check back turn. Would probably bet for value against everyone but that guy on the turn. As played fold on the turn coz its pretty good for his real range and his perceived range which will put u in a sticky spot on the river.

I'd 3bet for value/isolation pre.

As played fold to his c/r.

Do we ever want to check the turn for pot control?

I'm not sure, I guess we can check behind vs this opponent but i still think he could have FD's KQ, KT, AT that we can get value from on the turn, but that also puts us in a sticky spot if he is shoving that part of his range.

Against that fish you definitely want to be 3betting pre-flop, although calling isn't terrible.

I bet bigger on the flop and against this opponent consider checking back turn, once you do bet then I think folding is absolutely fine against almost all regulars at these stakes. The frequency they're shoving semi-bluffs in this spot is very low in my experience. Occasionally you'll fold to KQ but that's about all you're beating and he'll often flat with that too.

I believe calling pf is bad. You are missing a ton of value here. I'd 3bet as big as I believed the fish would call with worse. Heck, the CO is fishy too and you might end up getting 2 worse hands to call!

Definitely 3bet pre.

Turn is also definitely a check then fold to lead on river. Small vbet if checked to.

never ever checking back turn here. if im checking back turn then what does my value 2 barrel range consist of? 2 pairs, sets and straights? you can get value out of flush draws, worse queens, picked up combo draws that peeled the flop and might peel the turn

definitely fold to turn x/rshove

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Originally Posted by Fortitude

never ever checking back turn here. if im checking back turn then what does my value 2 barrel range consist of? 2 pairs, sets and straights? you can get value out of flush draws, worse queens, picked up combo draws that peeled the flop and might peel the turn

definitely fold to turn x/rshove

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on average, our hand is slightly ahead here, but I think we can get away with polarizing our turn betting range a bit when its 5 ways to the flop and a dirty board. I mean villain should clearly fold all worse and continue with all better vs 25$ here.

I'd rather bet the turn smallish and check behind river vs a super passive (and obviously bad) opponent like this one.

Put me in the camp of not checking this turn versus bad opponents at .5/1 So many pair+10x hands call this turn.

You are severely under repped so easy to be bluffed out. I like to 3b pre and iso UTG fish and pick up loose callers/force hnds out. As played, I like both bets and an easy fold on the turn. Although, Is it possible that sb could ship with Q10s as bluff/value???