BUTTON and CUTT OFF play

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ay-185488.htmli hate the way i play in button and cutt off, i only have a 2BB/100 hands win rate in button and just a 5bb/100 hands in cutt off and as i seen these should be the most profitable positions.

what am i doing wrong?

BUTT stats:

VPIP: 25 PFR : 17 CCPF: 9 WIN%: 13.64 WWSF: 40.57 WSD: 50.42 WTSD: 30.45

CO stats:

VPIP: 7 PFR: 7 CCPF: NA WIN%: 4 WWSF: 31.56 WSD: 46.78 WTSD: 46.31

my opening range in CO: A2s+,65s+,ATo+, suited broadways,55+,KQo, always reraise QQ+ AKo, i limp nothing in CO

open range BUTT: CO and add A2o+, ATC suited >7, 64s+ and i limp 67o+

calling range for CO is: AJso+, 55+, QJs+
calling range for BUTT is: CO and add 78s+, JTo+

i try to cbet max 2 opps when board and opps give me reason to do it and sometimes float any reasonable bets with good chances to improve myself on turn (at least 8 outs )


in what i said can you find anything wrong that makes me so little profitable in these pos? any advice or critics please?
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Some Reasons

1. Having generic ranges you don't appear to be widening or tightening given who is left to act behind you.

2. Probably not isolating weak limpers wide enough (based on a post you made in a thread a few days ago)

3. Flatting hands like JTo QTo KTo KJo is disasterous vs EP opens and will be burning a considerable amount of money most of the time. Dump dominated stuff and play pairs/SCs/hands with more implied odds and less reverse implied odds vs a tight range.

4. Not thinking for yourself enough about preflop situations and how you can exploit certain types of blinds/openers/opponents.

5. Stop limping the completelty. Out of interest why do you decide it is good to limp trash when you could just take down the blinds and get initiative to c bet and win a decent sized pot?

6.Sucking at poker postflop, FTR will soon help with that keep posting hands and doing what you're doing.

ty :)

Sample size? I'm at 20/18 in the CO and 10/8 OTB in the last ~2000 hands. I'm not really concerned. Just a terrible run of rags OTB I guess.

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calling range for CO is: AJso+, 55+, QJs+
calling range for BUTT is: CO and add 78s+, JTo+

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In addition to everything Carroters said, this could be your problem.

19k hands.... so my calling range is to wide?

Yeah you're playing too many hands in spots where it's the case postflop that you'll either win a smallish pot or lose a big one due to how badly hands like off suit boradways play vs an early position opening range.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3591/graphn.gif

pls tell me how do i post my graph and stats cause i lost last hour trying to do it and i dont know how.\ to post them like you do.

Go to "profile", then "pictures and albums" in the left column. There you can create an album and upload pictures in it. Then click on the picture you uploaded and it gives you at the bottom a link that you can use to link to it. When you make your post, click the "insert image" button and paste the link you took from your picture album.

Or you can use imgshack.com to do the same thing.

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Originally Posted by Carroters

Some Reasons

1. Having generic ranges you don't appear to be widening or tightening given who is left to act behind you.

2. Probably not isolating weak limpers wide enough (based on a post you made in a thread a few days ago)

3. Flatting hands like JTo QTo KTo KJo is disasterous vs EP opens and will be burning a considerable amount of money most of the time. Dump dominated stuff and play pairs/SCs/hands with more implied odds and less reverse implied odds vs a tight range.

4. Not thinking for yourself enough about preflop situations and how you can exploit certain types of blinds/openers/opponents.

5. Stop limping the completelty. Out of interest why do you decide it is good to limp trash when you could just take down the blinds and get initiative to c bet and win a decent sized pot?

6.Sucking at poker postflop, FTR will soon help with that keep posting hands and doing what you're doing.

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This is spot on obviously.

I'd say, to go even further on #3, for now he can drop those SCs because it's tough to play those vs. EP opens and he's probably not at a post-flop level to play them profitably yet. I could be wrong easily but any opinions?

Now I'll add some other thoughts from someone that doesn't play FR.

1. First of all, why did you say the BU is 2BB/100 and CO 5bb/100? Are they BB/100 or bb/100 because there is a difference?

2. Your button W$WSF seems a tad low (right?). What's your flop aggression frequency? What's your flop cbet%?

3. Your CO W$WSF HAS to be low. I think these stats should be in the mid-40's at least.

4. You need to raise more/play more hands in the CO. BUT, that doesn't mean to create a static range for this position.

Luck helped me post stats for all pos. its in first post, so that i think will be more helpfull to review my play and get the advice i need on my play.

vs tight blind i open up my open range, vs loose one i tighten up. post flop is ussually play"hit of fold", IP i bet HU if i get a ck from opp and board is ok to cbet air, multyway i rarely bet w/o TPGK at least.