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<spoonitnow> so guys
<spoonitnow> what's an example of when you should call but you raise
<@m2m> when ur opponent only value bets a better hand or bluffs and u have a bluffcatcher
<spoonitnow> anyway i just thought a nice exercise for you guys would be "what's an example of when you should _____ but you _____ instead"
<spoonitnow> i mean there are only 8 possibilities
<+[TPC]> however, i do like spoon's exercises
<spoonitnow> that one's not really mine, it's sklansky's
Im nearly certain there was an excellent TPC comment in that conversation that was not included in this post, but I'll go with it because I like these:
What's an example of when you should 3bet but you call instead?
80/3 villain who loves to fold to cbets, limps UTG and the CO raises to 5x bb, I'm OTB with KK and I call rather than 3bet to get Mr. 80/3 to come along for the ride and fold to my cbet on the flop.
To keep with the convention that leads to 8 possibilities:
What's an example of when you should 3bet but you call instead?
Would be generalized to:
What's an example of when you should raise but you call instead?
I play poker when I should Just be burning my money instead
lol
Actually, I semibluff extremely thin against multiple opponents when I'm last to act when instead I ought to just check behind.
why 8?
fold -> call/raise
call -> fold/raise
raise -> call/fold
what's an example of when you should fold but you raise instead?
villain doesn't have a fold button and i'm never good at showdown
Face no action and should check but we bet (1)
Face no action and should bet but we check (2)
Face action and should fold but we call (3)/raise (4)
Face action and should call but we fold (5)/raise (6)
Face action and should raise but we fold (7)/call (8)
Face no action and should check but we bet - sdv or weak draw vs fish on wet flop
Face no action and should bet but we check - flopped a small set
Face action and should fold but we call - too numerous :D
Face action and should fold but we raise - see above
Face action and should call but we fold - bluff-catching river on good boards
Face action and should call but we raise - getting odds to draw ott
Face action and should raise but we fold - for me, should 3-bet a wider range from the blinds vs tags
Face action and should raise but we call - slow-playing sets, or big draw facing c-bet
obv i don't make mistakes when villain checks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spoonitnow
slow corner/dunce hat/etc for me