JJ vs bully fish

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

BB ($5)
UTG ($28.22)
UTG+1 ($11.08)
MP1 ($5.50)
MP2 ($12.95)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($7)
Hero (Button) ($10.18)
SB ($5.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jh, Jd
UTG bets $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 7d, 5h, 9s (4 players)
UTG checks, MP2 bets $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($8.35) 10h (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50

River: ($13.35) 7s (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero ????

Total pot: $13.35 | Rake: $0.64

MP2 is semisuccesful 48/10 over 70 hands bully. Seen him preflop raise for 2.5$, and bet flop for 2.5$ few times.
So my question is, should i value bet the river or Check?

why didn't you 3 bet the flop, he'll call if he has any piece of that board. and why are you all so shallow in stacks?

gl

Im playing 20-50 BB tables. So the biggest buyin is 12.5$

Well there was player acting behind me, wasnt sure what that one would do.

If he's such a "bully" then there's no reason to raise the flop, the pot is big enough and stacks shallow enough that you'll be able to get it in over the turn and river easily anyways, so just keep all his spazzy air in that he;s likely to bluff with given your read. You could just jam the turn for value, but again letting him spazz off more with his air on the river outweighs protection, or getting value on this turn, since he wont be able to fold Tx, 9x etc on almost all rivers anyway.

So looks fine as played, now defo jam river! He rarely has better when he takes this line and wont fold a bunch of random Tx, 9x etc for this price often at all.

Also LongGrind, just to clear up terminology, hero doesn't have the option to 3-bet the flop, it'd simply be a raise or far less commonly a "2-bet"

The blinds count as the first bet preflop which is why the term 3-bet is correct when raising an open, but not a c-bet.

Thing about planning hands. The turn bet doesnt really make sense if we have no idea what to do on this river here.

Obv, bet turn, shove river is a good line (shoving turn also seems good, but less so)...however betting the turn and being confused on a great river is a serious leak...because bet turn fold river is horrible and bet turn check river seems weaker than the first two options i think we have.

Wait I totally misread the turn action last time round. Your line is actually not bad given we keep his continuing range pretty wide and I'd imagine he bets fds a decent amount of the time or c/shoves them vs this bet. We also get him lol pot comiotted on the river so he cant fold like 3rd pair and shit.

And as played his range is jus mostly all worse hands on this river, plenty of which he wont fold at this lol price, snap put the rest in.

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Originally Posted by Nekrogovner

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

BB ($5)
UTG ($28.22)
UTG+1 ($11.08)
MP1 ($5.50)
MP2 ($12.95)
MP3 ($5)
CO ($7)
Hero (Button) ($10.18)
SB ($5.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Jh, Jd
UTG bets $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) 7d, 5h, 9s (4 players)
UTG checks, MP2 bets $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($8.35) 10h (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50

River: ($13.35) 7s (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero ????

Total pot: $13.35 | Rake: $0.64

MP2 is semisuccesful 48/10 over 70 hands bully. Seen him preflop raise for 2.5$, and bet flop for 2.5$ few times.
So my question is, should i value bet the river or Check?

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I like the way you played the hand.

Preflop. Red Jacks.
I like calling PF, although you could make a case for ReRing in position I strongly prefer taking a flop with a hand like JJ. Folding is out of the question.

Flop. 7d, 5h, 9s.
My first thought when your opp bet into three opps was that he definately has a hand. My second thought was he most likely has a mediocre hand. I ruled out QQ+ because he probably would have ReR PF and while a set is possible it is statistically unlikely. I doubt he would have bet a hand like AQ+ because the flop missed him by a mile. That leaves mostly mediocre hands like unimproved pocket pairs TT, 88, 66, and suited connectors like 56, 65, 78, 89. These hands are pair plus gutshot hands. This is my primary read.

I would have preferred that he check so I can bet, but I think the flop call is an easy one.


The Turn. 10h

This could have a hit a hand like TT or 9T, but it misses most of the hand types I have listed above. So when he checks I'm still playing on the basis of my primary read. I would have made my bet just a little bigger, about 1/2 pot. I'm betting here both for value and to protect my hand. It's ok with me if he folds. Since you are essentially pot committed you could go all in. But I still prefer betting 1/2p a call here is profitable.


The River. 7s

This only improves a small portion of the hands in the range and I think you want to bet for value here. I don't mind checking especially if I had made the larger value bet recommended on the turn. However, as played I would lean toward betting for a little extra value.

Lots of talking here. Basically, getting all in on the river with your hand on this board v's this opponent is the reason you're at this table.

Hero calls $0.75
Hero calls $2.50

Not sure what the Call - Call is all about.

Calling is not the sign of a winning game.

You need to bet harder on the turn. You have and overpair against a players that's being passive on a low stake ring. I would put him on a straight draw and maybe a top pair with a weak kicker. You woulda kicked him out of the hand with a stronger bet (like 5 bucks on the turn) and if not he would be calling outhanded.

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Originally Posted by Roller

Hero calls $0.75
Hero calls $2.50

Not sure what the Call - Call is all about.

Calling is not the sign of a winning game.

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Please read description of villain and learn to play.

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Originally Posted by Roller

Hero calls $0.75
Hero calls $2.50

Not sure what the Call - Call is all about.

Calling is not the sign of a winning game.

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stfu

I think you played your hand really well...maybe be more aggressive on the river id say

I see that by the description of the villain he will basically raise even with a weaker hand. But why would we exclude the AA, KK, QQ, or even TT out of his range? I mean, he is looking at the same board as we are, is he that stupid?

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Originally Posted by uk_rocks2007

I see that by the description of the villain he will basically raise even with a weaker hand. But why would we exclude the AA, KK, QQ, or even TT out of his range? I mean, he is looking at the same board as we are, is he that stupid?

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Because he called preflop, and checked the turn, hands like AA-QQ are unlikely as well as sets

This is absolutely perfect imo. Probably for the wrong reasons, but whatever.
you could make it 3 on the turn - I think betting bigger is a mistake cos of stack sizes and reads. We want to keep his range as wide as possible while setting up a super easy river shove. What's the point in betting 1/2 pot and then 1/10 pot all-in otr?
However turn bet makes no sense if you don't know what to do on this river. (obviously jam)

Cbet on the turn. Shove on the river. If he's a bully fish then he's all yours.