JJ monotone board vs baddie 50NL

villain has been on table for less than two orbits and is an obvious bad player
i wanna b/f turn and c/f river here


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($21.75)
UTG+1 ($58.65)
MP1 ($63.25)
MP2 ($46.75)
CO ($52.50)
Button ($47.70)
SB ($50)
Hero (BB) ($66.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/js.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/jd.gif
UTG bets $1.50, 3 folds, CO calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6.50, 1 fold, CO calls $5

Flop: ($14.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/8d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/7d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/3d.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8

Turn: ($30.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/4d.gif (2 players)

10-13 on flop. he's peeling super light here, so pump the money into the pot

usually i c/f turn because i suspect him to be peeling with overs with a diamond. if you're betting turn i think you're getting owned more often than you're "missing" value. you can always get value on the river if he has 9T with a diamond or some other bs

why would you c/f turn?

if hes a bad player he can have any Ax, pair, any diamond, maybe even pure overcards. at this point i would just c/c down since that seems like the best way to keep his range widest. if you bet he probably folds anything but a diamond, if he checks back you can prolly vbet riv

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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

why would you c/f turn?

if hes a bad player he can have any Ax, pair, any diamond, maybe even pure overcards. at this point i would just c/c down since that seems like the best way to keep his range widest. if you bet he probably folds anything but a diamond, if he checks back you can prolly vbet riv

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hmm i guess c/f turn is suboptimal, but then are you c/cing to his turn bet and river shove?

also i think his range is pretty much just pairs and naked diamonds. just Ax and two black overcards is a little optimistic, but i guess it could be possible given the smallish flop bet

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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

if hes a bad player he can have any Ax, pair, any diamond, maybe even pure overcards. at this point i would just c/c down since that seems like the best way to keep his range widest. if you bet he probably folds anything but a diamond, if he checks back you can prolly vbet riv

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Turn: ($30.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/4d.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($46.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...smilies/jh.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $18

I was hoping his turn bet was a retarded bluff or vbet with worse and river goes check check. Do I call river now?

on the bright side, at least we made a set


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