I am serving jury duty right now. Sick beat. Anyone got any funny jury duty stories? Also how much would you pay to skip jury duty?
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I am serving jury duty right now. Sick beat. Anyone got any funny jury duty stories? Also how much would you pay to skip jury duty?
I was on a jury once, treble murder trial. true story
I got a jury duty notice last year and I was pumped about it for two weeks. I was ready to be "that guy". The trial got postponed the day before selection. I still feel ripped off about it.
I've always been kind of curious to be on jury duty. Is the shitty thing that you have to be 100% dedicated to it and nothing else for the duration of the trial? What's so bad about it?
Was selected for FEDERAL jury duty... thank god I didn't get picked.
Was a murder trial where the wife hired a guy to kill her husband. Prosecution seeking the death penalty. I had no idea what the case was about... until about 25 minutes before my juror interview when the guy next to me started talking about the case and what he knew about it out loud. I didn't participate but listened. When I went into the interview they asked what I knew about the case, I explained what the guy had said... immediately I was disqualified and had to point the guy out... he was hit with contempt (at least they were going to try for it, they excused me and shipped me out as they grabbed him up and brought him back into the judges chambers)
While waiting in line, I guess I'll ask everyone that comes out of the interview: "What's the trial about?"
Sweet story monty. That's a crazy ass situation.
they expect you to drop everything and go to trial, and who knows how long it can last for. hard for people who have real jobs, kids, school, commitments, etc. the pay isn't very good either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankItDrew
Its your civic duty man. If you don't do it you are a commy bastard who hates america.
I had just started a job for the government so was on full pay for 3weeks, sweet.Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
but yeah if your work doesn't pay, then the pay does suck!
Doubt I would ever do it. Only time summoned, got doctor's note, paid 80$, got excused
If i chose to not get doctor note due to my disability, when questioned I would just express my nullification and opposition to most laws and punishments. No way they would allow me on a jury, and I don't ever want to be on one anyways
Seriously wuf?
Of all the people here I would have thought you would be the most gung ho about being on a jury, and the fact that it's your civic duty to serve on a jury.
I went through it pretty recently. Was a pretty cool experience. I got to see firsthand just how important your legal counsel choice is. One lawyer pretty much just schooled the other. Felt bad for the guy who had the crappy lawyer; in all honestly, he probably should have won, but he didn't because his lawyer didn't present enough evidence to find the other guy guilty, and the way courts work, the jury isn't allowed to ask additional questions/ask for more evidence when in deliberations. With the evidence presented in front of us, we had to find the defendant not guilty.
This was for an injury case, where the plaintiff got rear ended by the defendant going like 80 miles an hour, had his car flipped over, and had to go to the hospital. Dude still has glass from the accident still in his arms...FIVE YEARS LATER.
i guess the jury members got lucky thereQuote:
Originally Posted by wufwugy
I loved being on my jury, but I had a union job at the time and was paid for it.
I loved it so much we ended up deliberating 3 days for a misdemeanor case.
It's partly because I don't want to put in the time and effort, but partly because I don't want to play their game. I'm not comfortable making decisions that have resounding effects on other people unless I make the right decision, and the law does a shitload to make sure the right decision isn't an option. Justice systems in practice are not about right and wrong, but about amoral law.Quote:
Originally Posted by ensign_lee
Also, it's not my civic duty. They say it's my civic duty because they're too stupid to realize the system works better when it's turned into a professional and volunteer system. Our justice system wants juries to be as dumb and sheep-like as possible. They don't want jurists who think, but who play their law game. The fact that all you have to do is tell the judge about the jury's right to nullify and he will dismiss you is evidence for this game they want you to play. The framers made a system where nullification played an important role, but because our current system can't fathom leaving the power in the hands of the people and can't fathom actually having to rule based on right and wrong, they scramble to remove as much nullification potential as possible.
I'm not comfortable lying in order to get on a jury, or in voting in an arbitrary, dichotomous manner under a "justice" system that gets things oh so wrong. I'm not comfortable being told to disregard anything or evidence being overruled. I'm also very prejudiced inasmuch as I will never convict somebody of a drug charge and will almost never convict somebody in a situation where they were fighting The Man or the machine or whatever.
The only jury I'll serve on is the one where the judge realizes that the only person in the room with the mental capacity and fortitude to determine the correct ruling is me, then hands over autonomy of proceedings to me...
You do realize that sound ridiculously narcissistic/childish, right?
Basically, the equivalent of "They're not playing with my rules, so I'm not gonna play."
Not trying to make you mad, but rather pointing something out. I figure you, of all people, would be open to introspective criticism.
I'm not concerned about playing by "my rules", but not by their deeply corrupted and effectively morally heinous rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by ensign_lee
I'll discuss a lot of things on this board, but one of them that I avoid is social justice systems. My position is a bit too unconventional. I believe one of the greatest evils of humanity is how we've structured our justice systems, but this idea is so outlandish that I'll just get flamed, and also I don't understand it well enough to offer solution without error, so I just avoid the topic.
You would have a very strong contrary point to me if you went with the "well the game is the game and you have to play it", and you would actually be right. My position then would be that I just don't want to do it for whatever reason, and that's that and I don't care if I'm wrong.
Also, don't get me wrong, the vast majority of what goes on in the justice system is good or at least arguably mostly good, but it's the teeny tiny bit of bad that goes unchecked for long enough that it permeates the whole thing. A whole lot of judges and attorneys are good people, or at least trying to be, but none of that changes the fact that prisons are a cesspool of human misery. It's this type of thing that makes me antagonize the system or at least do the "out of sight out of mind" thing. If put on the spot where I had to convict an obviously guilty person to life in prison, I may just not do it. The moral purpose of a "justice system" is for social function, not justice, and I don't feel that doing something worse to somebody who did something bad is a thing to be proud of
mom got on capital murder trial, dude just walked up to a guy putting a tape in the blockbuster return slot and shot him in his head as part of a gang initiation, he's on death row.
I deleted the last two posts. They serve no value to this thread.
I'm actually looking forward to jury duty, but maybe I'm just being idealistic.
its okay if you find someone to hangout with. then you are just hanging out with a friend. other than taht its like being in a very lax jail cell. you have to stay put unless you are told you can do otherwise. most other people are awkward people you would never talk to in the streets. and nobody is very talkative.
Getting civilians to be jurors was hard enough in the ancient times! Be happy you have that ability or else every rich person would be getting off on crimes bribing their fellow senators!
Voir Dire is one of the most painfully boring things I've ever done, and I had to do it twice.
I would never opt out now because I would be making bank. When I was selected I was job searching but had to put it off to make $20/day so I was pissed.
Was on a double, WAY TO BE A PREEMPTIVE TOPPERQuote:
Originally Posted by Muzzard