10nl 6max - EVERY DAY IM BARRELIN

villain is running 22/12 over 70 hands, 44% ats, hasn't 3bet yet.

his wtsd is 20% (2/20) though I didn't see the hands he showed down due to multi-tabling.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($12.67)
MP ($10.41)
CO ($9.93)
Hero (Button) ($19.58)
SB ($10.45)
BB ($10.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K:spade:, A:heart:
3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 8:club:, 4:heart:, 8:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) J:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

River: ($3.25) 10:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.40

Discuss.

i don't really like the river. i think it's hard for him to have any draws due to check/calling the 884 rainbow flop. his continuing range looks to be dominated by 44-QQ (assuming he 3bets KK+ pre) on the flop, and 44, 88-QQ on the turn. he may fold 99,TT on the turn so i don't mind firing that barrel, especially with two clean overs versus most of his continuing range. but on the river it seems the only hand you're folding out which is correct in calling is 99. i doubt he gets to that river with 55-77.

i don't play 6max so these ranges my be nitty and biased by my full-ring background, but that's my two cents.

These are the hands that for me, are preferably avoidable against stationy players, and most likely to get me tilting myself when they go wrong.
But I can see him still calling turn with 55,66,77,99,TT, as the bet size seems small. And I think he folds these (obvs not TT) to that river bet, which I like the sizing btw, seeing as it minimises losses when called.

if (seemingly) positionally aware 22/12's check/call two barrels here with 55,66 and 77 then i really need to start playing 6max. that's a serious statement btw, i don't play 6max so i'm not aware of the differences in play.

At 10NL I'm pretty confident there are a higher proportion of stations @6m than FR, and a higher proportion of bad nits @FR to 6m. This guy's wtsd is pretty low and he has a fair gap between his numbers (22/12). The turn bet is small, .90 into 1.45. Putting all this together I feel itchy about excluding 55,66 and 77 from his range on the river.

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Originally Posted by rpm

his continuing range looks to be dominated by 44-QQ (assuming he 3bets KK+) on the flop, and 44, 88+ on the turn.

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wat

I think it's alright some times. 3 barreling here probably folds out 55-88 maybe 99. Also obv get's folds from hands that he floated with and picked up diamonds on the turn like AQdd or Q9dd. Then again the T could hit parts of his range that he calls the turn bet with, ie T9.

I've been finding recently that people really hate giving up on paired flops and often it does take 3 barrels to get them to fold whatever BS they keep calling with. I think I might like making the turn 1.00 for psychological reasons and I think your river bet is fine, though obviously if you make the turn 1.00 then river should be like 2.70

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

wat

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you're right that doesn't make much sense.

i meant his flop range appears to be predominantly middle pocket pairs which aren't in his 3bet range preflop, such as 44-QQ (88 and 44 discounted because they may be check/raised some amount of the time). and on the turn, i don't think he continues with 55, 66 or 77 very often. so his continuing range looks more like 44, 88-QQ. he could have some floated Ax or middle SC's which turned a FD as well, i don't know.

I'm really not sure about the river bet. I would feel a lot better about it if we knew he was capable of folding shit and had seen him fold something to barrels before. The biggest mistake for the majority of bad players at these stakes is calling too much. So I don't know if I would want to be trying to get him off of his pp here. Maybe you think he also has a bunch of air here tho.

you're such a fish, probably got called by 99 or some shit

Can't we bet moar on the flop b/c hes going to be folding so many turns? like how we raise moar pre vs villains who are folding to cbets too often? I don't really see what better calls turn/folds river though ;(

Don't love or hate it really, I think you get him to fold 55-88 and random 4x hands on the river most of the time and maybe even 99. Turn bet should get him to fold most of his A/K hi's unless they picked up a fd or Jack. Checking back flop sometimes seems like a gd option.