Operation I like my chicks in twos (NSFW)

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Stacks:
UTG bignevola ($8.46)
UTG+1 markentosh ($5.41)
CO Hero ($8.18)
BTN DarthT8r ($5)
SB muchachit960 ($1.71)
BB murphy0013 ($4.44)


Dartht8r is 11/7 over 28 hands with 100%folds on flops he's seen...nitty TAG
muchachit960 70/9 over 32 hands seems passive calls when he gets a piece folds when he doesnt
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is CO :ad: :ac:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, DarthT8r calls $0.20, muchachit960 calls $0.18, 1 fold

preflop: darth is tag so what hands is he flatting and not 3betting here

JJ-88,AQs-A2s,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,54s,AQ o,KQo

the fish is playing all broadways,all pp's, any 2 suited cards, and any ace and prolly some worse offsuit hands some of the time

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,5 2s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

Hand 0: 67.820% { AcAd }
Hand 1: 18.051% { JJ-88, AQs-A2s, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, AQo, KQo }
Hand 2: 14.129% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

although this is obvious in the interest of being thorough i did it anyway

Flop: :th: :9h: :kc: ($0.65, 3 players)
muchachit960 checks, Hero bets $0.50, DarthT8r raises to $1.90, muchachit960 goes all-in $1.51, Hero raises to $5, DarthT8r goes all-in $2.90

Flop: standard cbet and i get raised he does this with

TT-99,AhQh,AhJh,K9s+,QdJd,QhJh,T9s,8h6h,7h6h

Board: Th 9h Kc

Hand 0: 32.982% { AcAd }
Hand 1: 67.018% { TT-99, AhQh, AhJh, K9s+, QdJd, QhJh, T9s, 8h6h, 7h6h }

Final analysis:

I have represented strenght preflop and flop,nit Tagg knows my range is very strong, yet raises anyway, against this range i have little equity

the ev of this call(if i make call i will have to call the rest of his stack later, also i assume fish binked nut hand so i will only consider rest of TAGGs stack):


33%(.3.29)=1.08 *3.29 is .39 more than fishs AI +2.9 behind for tag
67%(-3.29)=-2.20

1.96-2.88= -1.12


therefore calling is super bad, raising is worse. EASY FOLD

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Your 3 preflop should be bigger fo sho. like .24-.28

Plus then the way the betting went out you'd just be shoving a more trivial amount than a full pot sized bet and are much more likely to be looked up by hands that are behind you.

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Originally Posted by Donachello

Your 3 preflop should be bigger fo sho. like .24-.28

Plus then the way the betting went out you'd just be shoving a more trivial amount than a full pot sized bet and are much more likely to be looked up by hands that are behind you.

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DC i deleted first post by accident my fault

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Villain is 50/50 over 2 hands....just sat down no reads, etc

Stacks:
BTN IsiM=N ($0.89)
SB Gottfriedx ($1.77)
BB Hero ($3.66)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 3 players) Hero is BB :2h: :5d:
IsiM=N calls $0.02, Gottfriedx calls $0.01, Hero checks

villains range:

66-22,A8s-A2s,K8s-K2s,Q8s-Q2s,J8s-J2s,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,52s+,42s+,32s,A8o-A2o,KTo-K9o,QTo-Q9o,J9o+,T8o+,97o+,86o+,75o+,64o+,54o


Hand 0: 66.131% { 66-22, A8s-A2s, K8s-K2s, Q8s-Q2s, J8s-J2s, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A8o-A2o, KTo-K9o, QTo-Q9o, J9o+, T8o+, 97o+, 86o+, 75o+, 64o+, 54o }
Hand 1: 33.869% { 5d2h }


obv lets just see a flop.

Flop: :4h: :6d: :5c: ($0.06, 3 players)
Gottfriedx checks, Hero bets $0.06, IsiM=N calls $0.06, Gottfriedx folds

flop middle pair, this bet is stupid because this flop nails his range:

66-22,A8s-A2s,K8s-K3s,Q8s-Q3s,J8s-J3s,T8s-T3s,93s+,83s+,72s+,62s+,52s+,42s+,32s,A8o-A2o,T8o,97o+,86o+,75o+,64o+,54o

Board: 4h 6d 5c

Hand 0: 52.867% { 66-22, A8s-A2s, K8s-K3s, Q8s-Q3s, J8s-J3s, T8s-T3s, 93s+, 83s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A8o-A2o, T8o, 97o+, 86o+, 75o+, 64o+, 54o }
Hand 1: 47.133% { 5d2h }


i should have c/f this flop

Turn: :8s: ($0.18, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, IsiM=N calls $0.18

villains range:
66-22,A8s-A2s,K8s-K3s,Q8s-Q3s,J8s-J3s,T8s-T3s,93s+,83s+,72s+,62s+,52s+,42s+,32s,A8o-A2o,T8o,97o+,86o+,75o+,64o+,54o


Board: 4h 6d 5c 8s

Hand 0: 66.607% { 66-22, A8s-A2s, K8s-K3s, Q8s-Q3s, J8s-J3s, T8s-T3s, 93s+, 83s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A8o-A2o, T8o, 97o+, 86o+, 75o+, 64o+, 54o }
Hand 1: 33.393% { 5d2h }

Horrendous play on my part, im nearly a 70-30 dog now as this turn smacks the shit out of his continuing range...at the time i thought that i was betting for value, im actually value betting myself vs his range

C/F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



River: :9h: ($0.54, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, IsiM=N calls $0.26

villains range:
66-22,A8s-A3s,K8s-K3s,Q8s-Q3s,J8s-J3s,T8s-T3s,93s+,83s+,72s+,62s+,52s+,42s+,A8o-A4o,T8o,97o+,86o+,75o+,64o+,54o

Board: 4h 6d 5c 8s 9h

Hand 0: 78.920% { 66-22, A8s-A3s, K8s-K3s, Q8s-Q3s, J8s-J3s, T8s-T3s, 93s+, 83s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, A8o-A4o, T8o, 97o+, 86o+, 75o+, 64o+, 54o }
Hand 1: 21.080% { 5d2h }


again terrible river bet, only better is calling, worse is folding, C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F,C/F, EVERY STREET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Final Pot: $1.06

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Stacks:
UTG IsiM=N ($1.43) 38/13 over 8 hands
UTG+1 scout351 ($2.28) 50/25 over 4 hands
CO Gottfriedx ($1.79) 36/4 over 25 hands
BTN Hero ($3.10) 31/25 over 51 hands
SB nolimitzone ($0.69) 67/0 over 4 hands
BB USENIX ($0.98) just sat down


Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is BTN :5s: :5c:
IsiM=N raises to $0.06, scout351 calls $0.06, Gottfriedx calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, nolimitzone calls $0.05, 1 fold

Ranges:

Isim=n:22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 4s,43s,A7o+,K8o+,Q9o+,JTo

Scout351:TT-22,AQs-A2s,K6s+,Q6s+,J7s+,T6s+,95s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,AQo-A7o,KTo+,QTo+,JTo

Gotfriedx:TT-22,AQs-A2s,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,52s+,4 2s+,32s,AQo-A6o,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T7o+,96o+,85o+,74o+,63o+,53o+,4 3o

nolimitzone:22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,5 2s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,97o+,86o+,75 o+,64o+,53o+,43o


Hand 0: 09.264% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, 43s, A7o+, K8o+, Q9o+, JTo }

Hand 1: 19.584% { TT-22, AQs-A2s, K6s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T6s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 64s+, AQo-A7o, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

Hand 2: 23.181% { TT-22, AQs-A2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, AQo-A6o, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 85o+, 74o+, 63o+, 53o+, 43o }

Hand 3: 27.409% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 97o+, 86o+, 75o+, 64o+, 53o+, 43o }

Hand 4: 20.562% { 5c5s }

I dont mind calling here IP to setmine against 4 villains, if i bink a set it will be very profitable(plan here is to setmine)
Flop: :3s: :ks: :kc: ($0.32, 5 players)
nolimitzone checks, IsiM=N checks, scout351 checks, Gottfriedx bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.30, nolimitzone goes all-in $0.63, IsiM=N goes all-in $1.37, scout351 folds, Gottfriedx folds, Hero folds

gottfriedx range:
TT-33,AsQs,AsJs,AsTs,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6s,As5s,As4s,As 3s,As2s,K2s+,Q3s,J3s,T3s,93s,83s,73s,63s,53s,43s,3 2s,K8o+,63o,53o,43o

nolimitzone range:
77+,33,AdKd,AhKh,AsQs,AsJs,AsTs,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6 s,As5s,As4s,As3s,As2s,K2s+,AKo,K2o+

isim=n range:
QQ+,33,AdKd,AhKh,AsQs,AsJs,AsTs,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6 s,As5s,As4s,A3s,As2s,K8s+,AKo,K8o+

Board: Kc Ks 3s

Hand 0: 35.788% { QQ+, 33, AdKd, AhKh, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, A3s, As2s, K8s+, AKo, K8o+ }

Hand 1: 28.566% { 77+, 33, AdKd, AhKh, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, AKo, K2o+ }

Hand 2: 28.566% { 77+, 33, AdKd, AhKh, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, AKo, K2o+ }

Hand 3: 07.079% { 5c5s }


This raise is really retarded, again worse is folding, better is continuing
also this is why I need to stick to my plan preflop.

PLAN-SETMINE---->SET DOESNT COME ON FLOP---->C/F U FUCKIN IDIOT

but a week ago i prolly would have called/shoved so although im still retarded im not as stupid as i once was.





Turn: :qh: ($2.68, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: :qc: ($2.68, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $2.68

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Stacks:
UTG Petitdanone3 ($1.73)
UTG+1 BeanyM ($2)
CO reikorp ($5.53) 69/11 over 55 hands
notes:calls w/gutterball/insta bluffs busted draws on river +1 tell bluff draws on river
BTN Hero ($3.88)
SB rouletdeler ($1.58) 77/32 over 22 hands
notes:
1.overbets river with nut hands
2.calling 96o to btn raise...flopped mp checked, called psb q turn, checked river w/intention of calling
3.limped kk oop, minraised 9xx flop, slowplayed rest of streets
BB KastiPoker ($2.89) 23/20 over 35 hands, hasnt been involved much seems fit or fold post.

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is BTN :7d: :6d:
2 folds, reikorp raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, rouletdeler calls $0.05, KastiPoker calls $0.04

reikorp range:
22+,A2s+,K7s+,Q8s+,J9s+,T9s,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,53 s+,43s,A6o+,K8o+,Q9o+,JTo

roultdeler range:
22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,5 2s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K4o+,Q6o+,J7o+,T6o+,94o+,84o+,74 o+,62o+,52o+,42o+,32o
kastipoker range:
22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 3s+,43s,ATo+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo
i call here because i am IP in a multway pot with a hand that carries a ton of implied odds.


Flop: :5d: :8c: :3s: ($0.24, 4 players)
rouletdeler checks, KastiPoker bets $0.10, reikorp calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, rouletdeler calls $0.10

kastipoker range:
88+,55,33,A8s,A5s,A3s,K8s,T8s,97s+,86s+,76s,64s+,5 3s

reikorp range:
22+,AKs,A8s,A3s,KQs,K8s,QJs,Q8s,JTs,T9s,97s+,86s+, 75s+,64s+,53s+,43s

rouletdeler range:
44,22,AQs-A2s,K8s+,K5s,K3s,Q3s+,J3s+,T3s+,93s+,82s+,72s+,62s +,52s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K8o-K4o,Q8o-Q6o,J8o-J7o,T6o+,95o+,84o+,74o+,62o+,52o+,42o+,32o


i call here getting 4.4 to 1 on a call needing 4.8ish to 1 with a station behind and implied odds of at least another 20c on the turn. so i end up getting like 7.4 to 1 so +++ev

Board: 5d 8c 3s

Hand 0: 29.732% { 7d6d }

Hand 1: 22.976% { 22+, AKs, A8s, A3s, KQs, K8s, QJs, Q8s, JTs, T9s, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s }

Hand 2: 12.482% { 44, 22, AQs-A2s, K8s+, K5s, K3s, Q3s+, J3s+, T3s+, 93s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o-K4o, Q8o-Q6o, J8o-J7o, T6o+, 95o+, 84o+, 74o+, 62o+, 52o+, 42o+, 32o }

Hand 3: 34.810% { 88+, 55, 33, A8s, A5s, A3s, K8s, T8s, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, 64s+, 53s }

Turn: :7h: ($0.64, 4 players)
rouletdeler checks, KastiPoker checks, reikorp checks, Hero bets $0.46, rouletdeler calls $0.46, KastiPoker folds, reikorp folds

So i was asked why i bet here and i didnt remember at the time but i do now, my thought process was kastipoker is fit or fold, his cbet was "auto" in nature and barrels his strong range here and checks his air/weak range. the other two are prolly going to slowplay a straight but also check their straight draws/2pair/set hands as well, i couldnt do the equity in my head at the time so:

kasti range:
A5s,A3s,97s,86s+,76s,64s+,53s

the other two's ranges dont change at all imo so before i bet:
Board: 5d 8c 3s 7h

Hand 0: 21.535% { 7d6d }

Hand 1: 30.684% { 22+, AKs, A8s, A3s, KQs, K8s, QJs, Q8s, JTs, T9s, 97s+, 86s+, 75s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s }

Hand 2: 16.820% { 44, 22, AQs-A2s, K8s+, K5s, K3s, Q3s+, J3s+, T3s+, 93s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o-K4o, Q8o-Q6o, J8o-J7o, T6o+, 95o+, 84o+, 74o+, 62o+, 52o+, 42o+, 32o }

Hand 3: 30.962% { A5s, A3s, 97s, 86s+, 76s, 64s+, 53s }


The purpose of the bet was for value, i thought better would fold(7 is scare card imo) and worse would def call with 2 stations in the hand so after bet:

Board: 5d 8c 3s 7h

Hand 0: 66.001% { 7d6d }

Hand 1: 33.999% { 44, 22, AQs-A2s, K8s+, K5s, K3s, Q3s+, J3s+, T3s+, 93s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o-K4o, Q8o-Q6o, J8o-J7o, T6o+, 95o+, 84o+, 74o+, 62o+, 52o+, 42o+, 32o }


River: :6s: ($1.56, 2 players)
rouletdeler goes all-in $0.96, Hero folds

at the time i didnt think i could call here with so many tx, 4x hands in his range i figured i had to be behind

he gives me .96 to win 2.52 or like 2.65 to 1 on the call i have:

Board: 5d 8c 3s 7h 6s

Hand 0: 61.017% { 7d6d }

Hand 1: 38.983% { 44, 22, AQs-A2s, K8s+, K5s, K3s, Q3s+, J3s+, T3s+, 93s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o-K4o, Q8o-Q6o, J8o-J7o, T6o+, 95o+, 84o+, 74o+, 62o+, 52o+, 42o+, 32o }


being that i only need 38% to call here and i have 61% equity against his range i should have called? this is such a grey area for me because his continuing range is so wide.http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U6rDVX8GcL...Arts_large.jpg

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Stacks:
UTG Dragon Joh ($3.11)
UTG+1 krümel198226 ($1)
CO MONKEYCAT77 ($0.85)
BTN LennyG74 ($2.45)
SB Hero ($2.35)
BB calpic ($1.08)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is SB :ks: :ac:
2 folds, MONKEYCAT77 raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MONKEYCAT77 goes all-in $0.85, Hero calls $0.35

Flop: :2c: :js: :6h: ($1.72, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: :kh: ($1.72, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: :3s: ($1.72, 2 players, 1 all-in)

so bb is 79/46 over 24 hands and mp is 50/25 over 4 hands

I reviewed this hand and now think that 3 betting here is pretty bad here's why:

mp is short stacked less than 50bb, i have what seems to be a calling station (at least preflop) left to act with a 33%(1/3) call pfr who is also ss

mp's range:22+,A2s+,K6s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T8s+,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+,JTo

hypothetical calling range for bb:99-22,AJs-A2s,KTs-K8s,Q9s+,J9s+,T5s+,95s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,54s,43s,32s ,AJo-A5o


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.445% 30.09% 00.44% 13571094945 199719026.33 { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 25.328% 24.47% 00.93% 11037996058 418613756.83 { 99-22, AJs-A2s, KTs-K8s, Q9s+, J9s+, T5s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, 43s, 32s, AJo-A5o }
Hand 2: 44.227% 43.59% 00.76% 19661187828 343528877.83 { AKo }

ev of just flatting the flop assuming bb comes along and we get both stacks say 36%(times when a or k come on flop) and loss no more when non a or k flops come

on average against these two ranges we will have ~55% equity in the hand(on k flops we have ~41% on ace flops we have ~70%)


[.55(1.93)-.45(.10)]* 36%=.37c

ev of 3 betting and getting it all in with mp preflop

Hand 0: 37.711% 35.36% 02.35% 2157867552 143500686.00 { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 62.289% 59.94% 02.35% 3657782532 143500686.00 { AKo }


.62(.85)-.38(.85)=21c


so flatting mp's raise will alot of the time allow bb to also flat with a very wide range thus allowing me to gain about .16c for playing my hand this way.

Does this logic make sense?









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ok 1 thing, i nthis hand when you say mp are you talking about the co who is the initial raiser? also is the "calling range" for the bb that you posted his calling range for an all in or his calling range if you flat the other dudes bet, also keep in mind 76% is a shit ton of hands so he is going to have more than just the suited crap you give him like T9o, 98o, 76o, k8o+, j9o+, you get the idea...(oh yea and lol sample size at both of their stats)...

Basically,

you are doing a lot of uneccessary math that doesnt work out quite like you want it to. Finding out the ev of flatting is not that simple and cannot be solved like that. As for the ev of shoving, you used the mp's opening range against yours in stove, he is not going to be calling a 3b for all his chips with that range (well you tell me i guess...is he?). Also in your math your just assuming if the bb calls preflop he is going to call all in on any A or K high flop, whereas if thats the case then he'll probably stack off super light pre too so just shove pre and get them both to call seems best.

you wont know this by the amount of stats you have on him, but if he is super squeezy obviously flat/call shove would be great....if the mp is going to play fit or fold post flop, flatting is also a good option because you will be alone in the hand with a fish a good amount of the time, and youll get to value town either of them on any A or K high flops.

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Stacks:
UTG jortalleres ($2.20) 31/0 over 16 hands
UTG+1 Hero ($2.13)
CO gamblerr33 ($1.36) 68/4 over 73 hands, station post and pre seeing 80% of rivers(37/46)
BTN minthemouse ($2.73)
SB Glyharka ($1.12)
BB Master"G"HI ($0.76)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :kh: :ah:
jortalleres calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.04, gamblerr33 calls $0.04, 3 folds, jortalleres calls $0.02

UTG range:22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+, 62s+,52s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K8o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o
CO range:TT-22,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,52 s+,42s+,32s,A2o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T7o+,96o+,85o+,75o +,65o,54o


Hand 0: 27.151% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

Hand 1: 24.167% { TT-22, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o, 54o }

Hand 2: 48.682% { AhKh }


raise should have been to .10c not .04c which is pretty std for me not sure what i was doing there

Flop: :tc: :7s: :ks: ($0.15, 3 players)
jortalleres bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.20, gamblerr33 calls $0.20, jortalleres calls $0.10

utg range:TT+,77,ATs+,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6s,As5s,As4s,As 3s,As2s,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,92s+,82s+,72s+,62s+,52 s+,42s+,32s,ATo+,K8o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o

co range:TT-77,ATs+,As9s,As8s,As7s,As6s,As5s,As4s,As3s,As2s,K2 s+,Q9s+,Qs8s,Qs7s,Qs6s,Qs5s,Qs4s,Qs3s,Qs2s,J7s+,Js 6s,Js5s,Js4s,Js3s,Js2s,T2s+,96s+,9s5s,9s4s,9s3s,9s 2s,86s+,8s5s,8s4s,8s3s,8s2s,72s+,6s5s,6s4s,6s3s,6s 2s,5s4s,5s3s,5s2s,4s3s,4s2s,3s2s,ATo+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8 o+,T7o+,96o+,86o+,75o+


Hand 0: 20.284% { TT+, 77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s,

As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

Hand 1: 23.807% { TT-77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s,

As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q9s+, Qs8s, Qs7s, Qs6s, Qs5s, Qs4s, Qs3s, Qs2s, J7s+, Js6s, Js5s, Js4s, Js3s, Js2s, T2s+, 96s+, 9s5s, 9s4s, 9s3s, 9s2s, 86s+, 8s5s, 8s4s, 8s3s, 8s2s, 72s+, 6s5s, 6s4s, 6s3s, 6s2s, 5s4s, 5s3s, 5s2s, 4s3s, 4s2s, 3s2s, ATo+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 86o+, 75o+ }

Hand 2: 55.909% { AhKh }


i think my reraise here should be to like .50c as this bet size will help me to narrow both ranges and also make drawing to straight/flush unprofitable for both villains
Turn: :9s: ($0.75, 3 players)
jortalleres checks, Hero checks, gamblerr33 bets $0.20, jortalleres calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

one of the worst turns possible for my hand, j8, qj, 86, hit straight...and all flush draws hit flush

using flop continuing ranges i become an underdog to both

Board: Tc 7s Ks 9s


Hand 0: 30.533%

{ TT+, 77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

Hand 1: 40.083%

{ TT-77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q9s+, Qs8s, Qs7s, Qs6s, Qs5s, Qs4s, Qs3s, Qs2s, J7s+, Js6s, Js5s, Js4s, Js3s, Js2s, T2s+, 96s+, 9s5s, 9s4s, 9s3s, 9s2s, 86s+, 8s5s, 8s4s, 8s3s, 8s2s, 72s+, 6s5s, 6s4s, 6s3s, 6s2s, 5s4s, 5s3s, 5s2s, 4s3s, 4s2s, 3s2s, ATo+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 86o+, 75o+ }

Hand 2: 29.384% { AhKh }


but i only need 14.8% to call this profitably

so


River: :6c: ($1.35, 3 players)
jortalleres checks, Hero bets $0.92, gamblerr33 goes all-in $0.92, jortalleres goes all-in $1.76, Hero goes all-in $0.77

sigh.......what a cluster fuck i turned this river into....i should be checking behind and then folding with this action as i need 42% to call here and only have 21%

Board: Tc 7s Ks 9s 6c
Dead:


Hand 0: 29.328%

{ TT+, 77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

Hand 1: 48.829%

{ TT-77, ATs+, As9s, As8s, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, As3s, As2s, K2s+, Q9s+, Qs8s, Qs7s, Qs6s, Qs5s, Qs4s, Qs3s, Qs2s, J7s+, Js6s, Js5s, Js4s, Js3s, Js2s, T2s+, 96s+, 9s5s, 9s4s, 9s3s, 9s2s, 86s+, 8s5s, 8s4s, 8s3s, 8s2s, 72s+, 6s5s, 6s4s, 6s3s, 6s2s, 5s4s, 5s3s, 5s2s, 4s3s, 4s2s, 3s2s, ATo+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 86o+, 75o+ }

Hand 2: 21.842% { AhKh }
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UTG ceerte222 ($5.57)
UTG+1 atze333 ($0.87) 40/10 over 10 hands, raises very wide range from EP
CO Hero ($2.80) note:made of awesomness
BTN FaustGreen ($0.93)
SB das0 ($3.29) 64/13 over 67 hands, limps any hand with one broadway and not positionally aware and calls 50% 3bets (2/4) fwiw
BB alefgio ($7.03)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 6 players) Hero is CO :ac: :kc:
1 fold, atze333 raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.18, 1 fold, das0 calls $0.17, 1 fold, atze333 calls $0.12

utg+1 range:22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q6s+,J6s+,T6s+,96s+,85s+,74s+, 64s+,54s,A2o+,K6o+,Q7o+,J8o+,T7o+,96o+,85o+,74o+,6 4o+,54o

sb range:TT+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,A2o+,K2o+,Q2o+,J2o+

Hand 0: 23.231%

{ TT+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+ }

Hand 1: 26.929%

{ 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q6s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K6o+, Q7o+, J8o+, T7o+, 96o+, 85o+, 74o+, 64o+, 54o }

Hand 2: 49.839% { AcKc }

i should be 3 betting to like .36c here due to the fact that both villains are calling with the same ranges for .36c that they are calling with .18c


Flop: :3d: :6c: :qc: ($0.56, 3 players)
das0 folds, atze333 checks, Hero bets $0.69, atze333 goes all-in $0.69

Hand 0: 47.989%

{ 22+, AQs, A6s, A3s, KdQd, KhQh, KsQs, Kd6d, Kh6h, Ks6s, Kd3d, Kh3h, Ks3s, QcJc, QdJd, QcTc, QdTd, Qc9c, Qd9d, Qc8c, Qd8d, Qd7d, Qh7h, Qs7s, Qc6c, Qd6d, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Jc7c, J6s, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, T6s, 9c8c, 9c7c, 96s, 8c7c, 86s, 8c5c, 76s, 7c5c, 7c4c, 64s+, 5c4c, AQo, A6o, A3o, KQo, K6o, Q7o+, 96o, 86o, 76o, 64o+ }

Hand 1: 52.011% { AcKc }


EV = (% villain fold)(current pot) + (% villain calls)(our equity)(bet+pot) - (%villain calls)(his equity)(bet)

ev of shoving(say he calls 50%): [(.5)(.56)]+{(.5)[(.52)(1.25)]}-{(.5)[(.48)(.69)]=.44c


so i think i played this hand well as our shove is ahead of villains range, and given FE we are +++ev here.
Turn: :6d: ($1.94, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: :ts: ($1.94, 2 players, 1 all-in)

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first AK hand out of the 2 you just posted is pretty luls, hand number 2 WP NH ect (oh and lol at that guy folding the flop in a 3b pot)...

back to number 1 the only one that really needs discusison


1- raise a lot more preflop
2- raise moer on the flop
3- i guess you can call turn cause its such a small bet but id be folding there a lot considering so much shit just got there..(or shoving if you had built the pot like you were supposed to)
4. Check that river bra, you are multiway and you already said way behind their ranges, i guess you have to call the shove cause lol pot odds but you are rarely good here.

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

1- raise a lot more preflop
2- raise moer on the flop
3- i guess you can call turn cause its such a small bet but id be folding there a lot considering so much shit just got there..(or shoving if you had built the pot like you were supposed to)
4. Check that river bra, you are multiway and you already said way behind their ranges, i guess you have to call the shove cause lol pot odds but you are rarely good here.

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1. yea im a f'in moron no idea what that was about
2. do u like .50c here?
3.eh i feel like this is so marginal i tend to agree that folding is best as there's almost nothing we beat here
4.see #1

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UTG BarSib ($19.09)
CO ownzora ($5)
BTN JaeDonk ($8.86)
SB phenomofpokr ($10.20) 43/7 over 166 hands
BB Hero ($44.77)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is BB :ah: :kh:
3 folds, phenomofpokr calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.15, phenomofpokr calls $0.10

Flop: :3h: :5d: :3c: ($0.30, 2 players)
phenomofpokr checks, Hero bets $0.20, phenomofpokr raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20


1.i cbet here because villain will be continuing with alot of worse "big" aces(aj, aq) straight draws, etc

villains reraise range:66-22,AJs+,A5s-A2s,74s+,64s+,54s,43s,AQo+,A5o-A2o

2.the call .2/.5+/2=28% i need 28% to call his reraise and have ~43% so i think its a good call




Turn: :6h: ($1.10, 2 players)
phenomofpokr bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50


villains range:66-22,AJs+,A5s-A2s,AQo+,A5o-A2o

i become a slight favorite here, i def dont want to stack off here so i think c/c was a good line.
River: :3s: ($2.10, 2 players)
phenomofpokr bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

draws all miss, a3 only has 3 combos, 33 is not possible, im a ~55% favorite here but still dont want to raise because his raise calling range would be something like 66-44,22,A5s,Ad3d,A5o,Ac3d,Ah3d,As3d which i have 0 equity against.

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UTG+1 Hero ($5)
CO phlay ($7.06)
BTN Shpongolese ($5)
SB la_brujaa ($2.52)
BB mickey12111 ($5.19)

villain is 9/2 over 45 hands
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :as: :ks:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, la_brujaa goes all-in $2.52, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.32

at first when i looked at this hand i thought
my call was pretty bad as his range for 3bet
shoving here would be JJ+,AKs,AKo and im 42 %
to win the hand but after i thought about it
i wondered what my entire range would be for
calling here and it would be KK+,AKs which makes
my range much stronger than his

after thinking about this further i wanted to
find out what range i could profitably call
in this situation.

if villain 3bet shoves JJ+,AKs,AKo then we can
profitably call 99+,AQs+,AKo

i am hesitant to include jj in his range so a
range of QQ+, aks, ako we can profitably
call tt+,aqs+, ako

this is interesting as i didnt think we
could call with a range this relatively wide.

so i want to find out what we could
profitably shove given positions were reversed:

villains assumed utg raising range:
77+,A8s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo

~19% of this range calls our shove, ~81% folds then:

EV = (% villain fold)(current pot) + (% villain calls)(our equity)(bet+pot) - (%villain calls)(his equity)(bet)

0=(.81*.27)+(.19*x*(2.32+.27))-(.19*(1-x)*2.32)


x=23.6%

since ATC has ~25% equity against QQ+,AKs,AKo
we can profitably shove any cards were dealt if
we know he will only call with this range.


assuming my math is correct(BIG assumption)
what does this mean?



well i think that this means

1. against super nitty villains it is profitable to
shove ATC against utg, utg+1 ranges
(obv not every time they open)

2. as an utg opener we have to be willing to
call a wider range to 3bet shoves to avoid
being exploited like this

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UTG Hero ($11.14)
UTG+1 Alektra42 ($5.55)
CO Shpongolese ($12.50)
BTN la_brujaa ($3.03)
SB Annemeu ($10.34) 40/3 over 90 hands limps ax hands from lp
BB peeoouu ($7.46)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG :ah: :kh:
Hero raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Annemeu calls $0.18, 1 fold

villains lp flatting range:
99-22,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J4s+,T6s+,95s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,53 s+,43s,A2o+,K9o+,QTo+,J7o+,T8o+,98o

Hand 0: 34.559%

{ 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 64s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }


Hand 1: 65.441% { AhKh }

i think my open here should be for 6xish instead of 4, my reasoning for this is that 1. ldo i have a very strong hand 2. i have 3 relatively nitty players behind(all running 14/10ish over 80+ hands) the bb is also a nit running at 11/10 over 94 hands and the small blind is flatting here WAY to much.

in order to exploit/amplify his mistake of calling to much a 6x open is much better imo

Flop: :as: :3h: :8c: ($0.45, 2 players)
Annemeu checks, Hero bets $0.35, Annemeu calls $0.35

1.this bet should be a psb

villains c/c range:
99-22,A2s+,K8s,Q8s,A2o+,J8o,J8s

Hand 0: 21.956% { 99-22, A2s+, K8s, Q8s, J8s, A2o+, J8o }
Hand 1: 78.044% { AhKh }


1.bigger preflop open allows me to make a larger psb on the flop which helps to further exploit the fact that only 38/218 combos are beating me that he is continuing with here to that bet


Turn: :6d: ($1.15, 2 players)
Annemeu checks, Hero bets $2.50, Annemeu calls $2.50

BOOOOOOOOM PDK BONKS HAND AND FUCKS HIMSELF

1.wtf is the >2x pot overbet about? im sure i was thinking that i wanted to get stacks in here on the river but wtf is he calling this bet with that i have beat?

villains c/call >2xpsb range:
88,66,33,AKs,A8s,A6s,A3s,AKo,A8o,A6o,A3o

Hand 0: 83.471%

{ 88, 66, 33, AKs, A8s, A6s, A3s, AKo, A8o, A6o, A3o }

Hand 1: 16.529%

{ AhKh }

Moral.....well played dumbass

anyway a better line here is a psb, im still ahead of his flatting range here and i can probably fold if i get c/r as his range would be the same as above


River: :5c: ($6.15, 2 players)
Annemeu goes all-in $7.29, Hero calls $7.29


who the f knows what i was doing here f'in retarded imo im not beating anything at all ever here.

so raise to 6-7x pre in this situation where post will be pretty straightforward if one of the nits calls, also will exploit sb's tendencies and be very profitable in the long run

turn/river-cost of learning??? at least thats what ill tell myself.

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UTG Kupuscsikaja ($4)
CO G4mbler4life ($4.38) 24/14 over 94 hands pt3 preflop stats attached
BTN Hero ($16.99)
SB Sangsue1 ($13.24)
BB AwesomeLuck ($8.34)



Pre-Flop: ($0.12, 5 players) Hero is BTN :kc: :ac:
[Kupuscsikaja posts $0.05]
Kupuscsikaja checks, G4mbler4life raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Kupuscsikaja folds, G4mbler4life raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, G4mbler4life goes all-in $4.38, Hero calls $2.13

villains CO opening range:
22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,64s+,5 3s+,43s,A7o+,K9o+,QTo+

villains 3bet range:
99+,AQs+,KQs,AQo+,KQo

villain has 3 bet 1 time out of 31 chances...although this is a small sample i think i can assume he is 3betting a relatively tight range here.

Hand 0: 44.391%

{ 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo }

Hand 1: 55.609%

{ AcKc }
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villains 6bet shoving range:JJ+,AQs+,AKo

Hand 0: 54.347% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 45.653% { AcKc }


whats interesting here is that i dont think villains 3bet range changes from his 5bet shove calling range. given that fact i should have 5 bet shoved here as i manipulate his range to be slightly weaker than the way preflop played out.

regardless of this 2.13/8.88=24% so either way i have plenty of equity to call here but 5bet shoving is more profitable because his calling range would be slightly wider than his 6bet shove range.
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SB markentosh ($5.43)
BB Hero ($8.14)

villain is 31/16 over 49 hands with a 43% ats and a 100% call 3bet (2/2)
Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Hero is BB :kh: :ah:
2 folds, bignevola raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, bignevola calls $0.20

villains btn opening range and his continue to 3bet range are identical here i think also given his call 3bet stat up to this point i think a 3x 3bet is too small and a 5 or 6x is better as it exploits the fact that he's flatting too many 3bets more.

villains open/call3bet range:22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J7s+,T7s+,96s+,85s+,74s+, 64s+,54s,A2o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T8o+,97o+,86o+,75o+,6 4o+,54o

Flop: :tc: :as: :3c: ($0.62, 2 players)
Hero checks, bignevola checks

i have no idea why i checked here its f'in retarded. PSB is so std especially with fd

Turn: :9h: ($0.62, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, bignevola raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.75, bignevola goes all-in $4.14, Hero calls $2.39

as played lead should be more .60c is good, his range that he's stacking off with

range:TT-99,33,A9s+,A3s,A9o+,A3o

we have 40% equity against his range here, we need >call/call+pot so 2.39/2.39+6.51 which is about 27% so call is good here.

the flop i played terrible but as played i think the turn isnt too bad, could have avoided this spot by playing the flop better but live and learnhttp://www.freshgf.com/fhg/0420/001/04.jpg

lol trouble with AK much? like srsly every hand in here is AK

First hadn with the hearts
WTF on the turn :-/....if he is stationy enough and you know he will be calling all his Ax hands to 2xpot bets then this is perfectly fine and its only when he shoves that id start sketching out (probably still call though), if you dont think you are getting stacks in good this deep with TPTK then obviously your turn bet is horrible, you need to have a plan for your hand.

Hand number 2...(clubs)

Wtf....someone who has only 3b once in 94 hands is very unlikely to have the range you have given him and his 6b shoving range is not going to include shit like KQ lol...flat the min 4bet or just shove imo

Hand 3 (hearts again)

3betting pre is great but i like to make it like 40 or 50 pre to pwn him for minbetting and also you said hes gonna call 3bets so you get more value this way.

WTF are you doing on flop, i know you now realize you should bet now but come on you get value from Tx, Clubs, gutshots, and best of all worse Ax

On the turn when you get raised its really meh...hes not checking behind AQ, AJ AK and then raising it on the turn imo...and him slowplaying all his 2 pairs and sets on a drawy board is unlikely (although he is an idiot)...honestly it looks like a set to me, i know its lol pot odds when he raises so id probably just flat and call most bets on the river. Basically at this point im trying toget to a showdown as cheaply as possible as i doubt you are ever good here except maybe vs straight/flush draws or Acx or 9cx

Quote:

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

lol trouble with AK much? like srsly every hand in here is AK

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i just filtered for hands that went to showdown and there in order from high to low, lol, i guess i should mix it up a bit but i plan to do them all

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

First hadn with the hearts
WTF on the turn :-/....if he is stationy enough and you know he will be calling all his Ax hands to 2xpot bets then this is perfectly fine and its only when he shoves that id start sketching out (probably still call though), if you dont think you are getting stacks in good this deep with TPTK then obviously your turn bet is horrible, you need to have a plan for your hand.

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right on all accounts, he's not calling ax hands to that bet, and at the time i never planned my hands. I dont think im ever going to be good when he calls the turn bet but i think a normal like 3/4psb or psb will keep his calling range wide enough that i will get alot of value from ax, weird 8x hands, etc

Hand number 2...(clubs)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

Wtf....someone who has only 3b once in 94 hands is very unlikely to have the range you have given him and his 6b shoving range is not going to include shit like KQ lol...flat the min 4bet or just shove imo

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yea i actually posted this in bc and fixed having kqs in his range thats just a mistake, i end up being 45% i actually think shoving over his 4bet is way more profitable then calling his shove, i havent really thought about flatting here but i think that if a k or a come on the flop he is leading like 100% and that puts us in an ackward position because he's repping a range that were a huge dog to....something like aa,kk,maybe qq, ak. and it just seems like that is going to be a really shitty spot as oppossed to getting it in good vs. his range pre....im prolly wrong here but im looking forward to seeing what you think about this.

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

Hand 3 (hearts again)

3betting pre is great but i like to make it like 40 or 50 pre to pwn him for minbetting and also you said hes gonna call 3bets so you get more value this way.


WTF are you doing on flop, i know you now realize you should bet now but come on you get value from Tx, Clubs, gutshots, and best of all worse Ax

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agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

On the turn when you get raised its really meh...hes not checking behind AQ, AJ AK and then raising it on the turn imo...and him slowplaying all his 2 pairs and sets on a drawy board is unlikely (although he is an idiot)...honestly it looks like a set to me, i know its lol pot odds when he raises so id probably just flat and call most bets on the river. Basically at this point im trying toget to a showdown as cheaply as possible as i doubt you are ever good here except maybe vs straight/flush draws or Acx or 9cx

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your right on here too, one of my bigger leaks was/is that i react and play to quickly and dont take time and think about what im doing, i think ive put an end to this with alot of painstaking analysis(see above) but this hand is def c/c turn c/c river imo especially since his betsizing is prolly gonna be lol small