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Villain is retarded ass 45/5 station fish. Should have bet more on flop and turn, but w/e, point is made.
weaktight | Hand | QTo - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Villain is 33/17 over 14 hands or some shit. Turn is a pretty clear bet/fold, but I run good and bink ldfo. :trollface:
weaktight | Hand | JJ - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Villain is 55/10 over 99, pretty aggro postflop, but I can't really see him jamming two pair here on the river. Unless he has like KJ somehow, or J6, K6, etc. But its like this is so obviously a flush 75%+ its not even funny.
Looking at this hand now, I'm not even sure if I like my bet anyways, but its 10nl, he's a fish, he can find the call button with worse. Easiest river fold ever though once I bet. :(
weaktight | Hand | 55 - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Edit: just realized I could have put all these hands in one post, but I'm a retard. W/e I'll start now.
Villain is 5/4 over 122 hands, hasn't c/r yet in that sample. This should be a pretty simple b/f since I expect him to c/c with pretty much all his PPs, and c/r his sets. He's never doing this with like AdKd or something, he's probably just set mining d-bag and ofc I pay him off. :(
At the time I was thinking, 'no fucking way he just c/jam's a set here.' It's not fun to be proven wrong lol.
weaktight | Hand | QQ - $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
Ok feeshus, your turn.
last hand villain was the button though so he couldnt check raise or check jam. 5/4 would have me thinking he could have KK AdKd or sets and do i really want to get money in.
Well dranger, you have the betting part down. Seems you need work on the folding part though =D.
Ah balls, you're right Keith, my replayer showed him as the SB for some reason. O well, same shit. :P
Man that post by ISF is the nuts, thanks doctor.
In that last hand I think he is more likely to jam a FD than he is to jam like JJ, TT. Therefore, pretty much any hand he could be doing this with either has you crushed or has good equity against you unless he's somehow spazzing. But yea, I think u know that
wtf at considering not betting the river in the hand with the set. he'll call with like TT there.
the QTo hand the vbet is so thin that i wouldn't do it if villain is EVER bluff raising. most villains wouldn't, though, so the bet is fine.
I'm scared money ldo.
Yea I wouldn't bet the QTo hand vs a reg obv. The guy was just such a station he's probably legit calling Tx there.
YessuhQuote:
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Hands look good. I've created so much more value since b/f more.
Hoping some you guys could throw up hands of your own. I'll keep posting mine as I come across decent examples.
villain is reg who won't be bluff raising turn or river. He only sometimes has a jack here, may call down AK
weaktight | Hand | TT - $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
I swear you where just going to post a one liner "run like me" or some stupid shit like that. Iv read this a few times. I need to learn the fold part better :P
In b4 newfish writes a 1-liner to increase his postcount
seriously though dranger, nice find. I'll be adding this to the pile of material I have to go through in order to figure out how to improve from a shit 5.05BB/100 at 5nl.
Thats not going to stop me from writing another 1-liner
Nice daven.
I like it as long as we know he doesn't have a J super often, otherwise we may just be valuetowning ourselves.
Bet folding is usually the best play unless the bulk of his range was draws, air, or a hand we beat that can't call a bet.. better to give them a chance to bluff in these instances.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
UTG ($61.35)
UTG+1 ($29.35)
MP1 ($34.60)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($25)
Button ($25)
Hero (SB) ($44.65)
BB ($25)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:spade:, Q:diamond:
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero bets $1.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1
Flop: ($2.75) 9:spade:, 3:spade:, 4:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, MP1 calls $2.60
Turn: ($7.95) 8:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, MP1 calls $5.20
River: ($18.35) A:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $13.75, Hero calls $13.75
Total pot: $45.85 | Rake: $2.20
Results:
Hero had Q:spade:, Q:diamond: (one pair, Queens).
MP1 had J:spade:, 7:club: (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $43.65
...Quote:
Bet folding is usually the best play unless the bulk of his range was draws, air, or a hand we beat
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiMark
that isn't likely to call 3 barrels, sorry didn't think I needed to spell that outQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwiMark
Yeah, I fully co-sign ISF. I'm glad I came across that post. I begun to stop wanton calling a while back and I saw my fortunes rise.
who likes bet/folding this river? villain is a 13/6 nit who folds SB 91% and BB 78%, however he recently flatted me in BB with A8o vs my SB raise. he has also floated me with underpairs to the board in the past, however he didnt bet the turn when he did this. anyway i folded to his minraise because i thought it was the nuts and the nuts only then he claimed in chat that he had a lone 9 and thought it was going to be a split (this was with others talking about the hand, i didnt say anything). i assume he's not that dumb and is trying to act dumb in the chat (it's not like i ever call with worse than his 9 AFTER i lead the river, so he's just paying more rake/losing whenever he raises and i call). i felt his river calling range was way wider than his betting range, because he may call with two pair hands, which he is far less likely to bet. anyway. good river b/f spot?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (SB) ($25.94)
BB ($50.42)
UTG ($24.16)
UTG+1 ($24.56)
MP1 ($9.74)
MP2 ($23.12)
MP3 ($23.57)
CO ($12.87)
Button ($28.68)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9:heart:, 10:club:
7 folds, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.18) J:spade:, 10:spade:, Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
Turn: ($1.18) K:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50
River: ($2.18) 3:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $2.20, Hero folds
Total pot: $4.38 | Rake: $0.21
villain here is 16/1/0 (3bet), 0% raise to cbet, 82% fold to cbet. thus he has higher pairs such as QQ+ in his turn calling range, as well as flush draws and one pair/OESD hands. i assume due to being such a passive toadfish that he only ever raises full houses and straights on this turn. b/f turn seems pretty obvious. b/fold or b/call river?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (UTG) ($26.13)
UTG+1 ($27.50)
MP1 ($22.83)
MP2 ($25.65)
CO ($25.97)
Button ($9.48)
SB ($10)
BB ($25)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J:heart:, J:spade:
Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 5 folds
Flop: ($1.15) 8:diamond:, 10:heart:, 7:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, MP1 calls $0.80
Turn: ($2.75) 7:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.10, MP1 calls $2.10
River: ($6.95) 9:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.80, MP1 calls $4.80
Total pot: $16.55
I actually like a b/c on this riverQuote:
Originally Posted by rpm
You'd call another 14$ on this river? Even though we need something like less than 30% here, I feel like a good portion of the time we'd be calling just to split, and that is being optimistic. I bet/fold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imthenewfish
I could type up some justification to this if anyone would like to see it - but I just feel given previous streets that we cant sufficiently discount full houses and better straights here often enough for it to be a bet/call.
Anyhow, newfish tends to be right like 85% of the time on these types of things :mad: so I'd like to hear his reasoning
No i didn't realize we were 250 deep so i thought we would be calling 5 to win 15 or something and getting 3 to 1, and i thought that there was leik no way we're bellow 25% equity to a raise here, but im not sure because he really might be a passive toadfish that is slowplaying us with a boat ;(. b/c just seems spewy now against *this* villain 250 deep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penneywize
I don't see QJ being in this guy's range by the river ever, fwiw, he doesn't seem the type to be calling two streets with a gutterball/overs (even if he does call one street and binks the fd I dunno if he's calling since the board paired).
That said, I don't think he's raising anything on this river but boats, but he's calling with more than enough that we beat (largely 'cause he can only have ten combos of boats) so I'm all about the bet/fold.
disclaimer: I woke up at 4:30am 'cause I'm sick and it's now almost 7am and I can't get back to sleep so I might not be showing off the best thinking atm
Meh I mostly agree about QJ, there are only two combos that would be plausible given villain's line (and one is much more likely than the other) - QdJd and QhJh obv. Agree on your other points.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiMark
Feel better Kiwi.
Great to see some hands/discussion going on in the BC for once. :) That's what I was shooting for lol.
Rpm, for your first hand, I don't really like the b/f on the river, especially since villain bets the turn for a gayish amount. Villain could easily be betting the turn with TJ/QT/KQ/KJ/KT etc and be looking for some thinnish value and hoping you think he's FOS and call down with Kx or something, and there's also the pretty good possibility of him having Ax, 9x and we lose/chop. I say check and evaluate vs his bet size. If he bets like 1/2 pot again, I cry and call since he can do it with 2 pair hoping we can call with worse. I.e. he's b/f'ing here himself a ton when we check. Anything bigger than ~$1.30 and I'm folding 100%.
2nd hand is an awesome spot to b/f vs a weak/tight station. He calls with worse always, and only raises when we're beat with a boat and possibly when we chop, but who cares about chopping? He can't really get 6x or QJ to the river so those are w/e. I like your river sizing a lot too.
cool thread bro. villain here is 43/9 over something like 60. showed down T7s
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($11.27)
SB ($20.33)
BB ($29.12)
UTG ($11.46)
UTG+1 ($21.80)
MP1 ($24.63)
MP2 ($25)
Hero (CO) ($25.39)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.60, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0.50
Flop: ($1.51) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.20, MP1 calls $1.20
Turn: ($3.91) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3.20, MP1 calls $3.20
River: ($10.31) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks
Total pot: $10.31 | Rake: $0.50
more on the flop is obviously better because his range is weak and he most likely loves to check/call. i am beginning to better understand fnord's comments in the thread about beating the shit out of loose/passives. nice thread
Yea, you can easily bet pot, or 1.40 or w/e since he's calling with soso many draws, pair + draws, etc. Turn sizing is good. River check back is fine, but you could bet like 4.50 or something gay and get him to call with some random bullshit a lot, and he'll let you know when we're beat. I don't really expect him to bluff raise all that often, and the only Ax he has in his range is A8 and A9, MAYBE A7. Unless he has the Ad with whatever other card he wanted to call down with, but meh. That's why thin value is fun. :D
weaktight | Hand | 92s - $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
lol bump
villain is 67/14 over 32 hands, no relevant history
Goes to show there still are retards out there post-UIGEAQuote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...b1817/owl1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by StarGrinder
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($57.50)
CO ($113.80)
Button ($63.75)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($73.85)
UTG ($50)
Hero (UTG+1) ($51.90)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 3 folds, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($4.25) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3
Turn: ($10.25) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $7,
Was there supposed to be more to that hand, daven?
nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage
read the op...hes BET/FOLDING lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tomato paste carnage
Daven -- do you check or bet the river if he calls the turn?
B/f turn, b/f river
fair question.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightGizmo
1 - i'm betting flop and turn for value = I think I am ahead of the majority of his calling range.
2 - the hands that call that I'm ahead of are basically Ax hands (no draws on this board), so A6-AQ, and maybe a small amount of 88-QQ
3 - the hands i'm ahead of have at most 3 outs on the river
4 - the question I'm asking on the river is how to best extract value from the hands that I'm ahead of
5 - so, are AT/QQ betting river when checked to more often than calling a river bet? so, should I bet or check for value vs the hands I'm ahead of?
vs some villains this could be a snap c-call on the turn cos he's folding all his float range to a barrel but will bet his entire range when checked to. If I'm snap check-calling this type of player, should i be considering c-raising?
anyway, that doesn't apply to this guy tho (reads are gold, right?), so I'm in bet-fold land (he isn't gonna bluff me here either)
Ok so, this is a hand that rpm posted in his blog and its pretty key in showing how much bet/folding can/will affect your winrate for those of you morans who think I'm just shitting you, I'll show you some numbers.
weaktight | Hand | KK - $0.05/$0.10 Ante $0.02 No Limit Holdem
Villain in question is 33/0 over 3 hands, so clearly we have zero reads other than he coldcalled a minraise in EP and a 3bet OOP.
On to the analysis:
Our premise is, we bet $10 with the intention of folding to a c/r since we assume villain is never bluffing when he c/r.
{AcKc, AQ, KQ, Ac9c, Ac7c, QJs, 88, Ac2c, Ac3c, 9cTc, TcJc} - range on river
Note: I pick and chose the flush combos at random, thats why there's hands like Ac2c and not AcJc, it's irrelevant WHICH hands he has, as long as the number of combos is about right.
AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, Ac9c, Ac7c, QcJc, Ac2c, Ac3c, 9cTc, TcJc, 88 and for shit and gigs lets give him 57s for 4 more combos that we lose to = 17 combos that c/r that we lose to
AQ = 11 combos we beat (we lose to AcQc)
KQ = 5 combos we beat (we lose to KcQc)
QJs = 3 combos we beat (we lose to QcJc)
Total of 17 + 19 = 36 total combos on the river
17/36 = 47% of the time, we bet $10 and he c/r and we fold
19/36 = 53% of the time we bet $10 and he calls and we net $27
($27*.53) - (-$10*.47) = $14.31 - $4.70 = $9.61
The key thing to take away from that $9.61 is that we are losing 96bb (almost a full BI) every time we fail to make this bet. EVERY TIME!!!!! Do you micro bonks realize that a situation exactly like this (maybe not for this many bb, but similar situation) come up WAAAYYYY more often than 1 time every 1,000 hands?
Say this situation only did pop up once every 1,000 hands. Also assume we are a breakeven player when we don't bet this river (we never bet/fold this river in this scenario). All of a sudden thanks to Dranger, you learn the wonderful world of bet/fold and you start to bet/fold in this spot like you should, that takes you from a breakeven/slightly losing player to all of a sudden beating the stake for 10bb/100.
Funny how that works, isn't it?
Trust me...this works...really well. Fish call way too much. Just don't level yourself and think:
I have been betting aLOT
The Passive fishtards at microstakes must think I'm CRAZY
Oh he is raising the TURN! He must be reacting to my crazy betting style.
No...they aren't. Passive fish are passive fish and when they raise you they have the nuts...FOLD.
nice post mr anger. i'm happy to be made an example of if my reward is learning to crush these microsuckers.
A lot of this is read dependent but I agree that, in general, bet-folding is a good strategy. In many cases we also need to watch for boards where draws make up a large percentage of the villains range. Here, a lot of times the best way to get max value is to check and let aggressive opponents bluff their missed draws. This also helps balance our range so that we are not always smashing the river with our value range. As we move up, savvy players will pick up on your mega river aggression and start bluff-raising scare cards after floating.
But I like the theme of this thread.. when unsure what to do, bet.. its much better than puss-checking and whining about your bad luck.
bump, gonna try to start posting some hands where i should be b/f'ing
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($11.77)
Button ($10.06)
SB ($7.39)
BB ($12.17)
UTG ($10.25)
UTG+1 ($10)
Hero (MP1) ($21.35)
MP2 ($8)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, SB calls $0.30
Flop: ($0.85) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...lies/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ilies/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60
villain is 45/10 over 30 hands or so,pretty passive post, and won't be c/r'ing draws very often if at all here
holy moligans the new fish is seeking to do something constructive. as for the hand i'm not really fussed whether you check it or bet/fold. the fact you noted that he isn't likely to c/r draws is a good thing, and makes us more inclined to bet. i think i like a bet/fold here if villain has some one pair/gutter or OESD hands that we beat ie T9, T8, J9, J8 etc. also if you feel he's got any kings in his range which aren't two pair or a flopped straight (ie he calls with some of K4s-K8s pre) then i think bet/folding is great. actually yep b/f this flop for sure now i think aboot it.
actually he's probably c/c'ing any ace. definitely like a bet/fold here.
biggest leak is just sucking ass at hand reading which leads to not betting when you should
this is why so many small stakes players check the turn when they should be barreling.
had to dig this one up. i have a couple of hands in which i bet with intentions of folding in spots i normally wouldn't. and i wanna hear what people think of them.
in this hand our opener is an unknown, dude to my immediate left is 20/10/0 (3b) over 10 hands, and last to act is a 81/5/0 superfish who recently defended his SB vs my CO open w/K5o, checking down K high every street postflop. so basically i don't think anyone has a set or flopped straight here because of the flop action. i'll break them all up:
opener may be checking QQ+ because he got called in 4 spots and shat his pants, but when the Q falls, there are more combos of AK in his range than there are QQ+, coupled with his small flop cbet, and check on the turn, this guys range isn't too troublesome (granted AQ may have got there but that's why i'm bet/folding to any further aggression in the hand)
the dude to my immediate left i think has 66-JJ heaps because he raises sets/two pair on the flop a large amount, and even if he doesn't, he likely will on the turn, so i can safely fold if he 3x's me.
the droolers flop range is any 4+ out draw (of which he has plenty because Ax has a gutter), any pair, and perhaps some random overs that missed. i'm not sure if he calls the turn with a naked gutter, but he does call with any 6, any pair/gutter or pair/open ender, and 66+ (he is passive pre and hasn't 3bet yet so they are def. in his range)
thoughts on bet/fold turn?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP1 ($25.70)
Hero (MP2) ($25.80)
MP3 ($9.88)
CO ($46.19)
Button ($9.17)
SB ($25)
BB ($29.55)
UTG ($41.02)
UTG+1 ($29.50)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J:club:, J:heart:
UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.83) 4:club:, 5:spade:, 3:club: (5 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1, MP3 calls $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1
Turn: ($5.83) Q:spade: (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4
another. villain here is 16/8/4.5 (3b) over 1k. he has raised 15% of 26 possible flop cbets, and folded to 54%. i only have one note on him which i gathered this same session and reads "3b 77 from BB vs UTG+1 open + LP flat, open jam 200bb on flop w/top set".
i feel he is just fucking with me here a lot because this flop doesn't appear to hit my range at all, i'd say he has all hands containing the Ah in his range, which, if he is flatting say A6s+,ATo+ preflop is (i think) 16 combos, as well as sets and some other garbage. on the turn i'm basically preventing myself from having to C/C against a relatively unknown range (15% raise flop cbet is pretty high in my experience), most of which will be barreling. i felt like once i lead the turn i make him play relatively straightforward, and retain initiative. i basically wanted to make him play his Ah hands passively (picked up some SD value), and remove any air from his range because tbh i don't feel like C/Cing more than one street after this flop without reads that he likes to run 3-street bluffs. maybe that's all just scared logic though. thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($25.94)
MP1 ($17.06)
MP2 ($10.30)
MP3 ($12.19)
Hero (CO) ($25.53)
Button ($29.50)
SB ($54.59)
BB ($17.26)
UTG ($25)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8:heart:, 7:spade:
5 folds, Hero bets $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.13) 4:heart:, 5:heart:, 6:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.13) A:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.75
1. Looks fine, the Qs is pretty much a blank for everyone's range most of the time. I doubt utg doesn't bet AQ+ here so I'd defo bet for protection/value from worse pairs and draws, especially given the drooler's calling range.
2. Just 3-bet the flop here, I doubt he's got complete air here very much and if he does he's not going to be bluffing turns much on non hearts, so calling and checking the turn obviously sucks especially here where he'll check back some Ax and shit. I'm defo leading the turn as played, and making it a bit bigger too, mainly just to give his Ah,x typehands that are never ever folding a worse price and getting more value from like TxTh type hands before the river bricks and they fold. Defo just 3 betting this flop though, being oop here we want to make draws, sets, 2 pair, overpairs felt now since we have the equity edge, and they'll be able to slow down on certain turn cards if we check. Your line isn't totally retarded, but there's no point in letting another card roll off here when you gain nothing from it, when it can A kill your action, by both making Ahx hands shut down on blanks or making overpairs, 2 pairs, sets wanna fold on h turns, and or B put you in a shit spot on h turns, where we probably have to c/f, sometimes folding the best hand.
Oh, and him raising c-bets 15% over 27 oppertunities really isn't all that much at all, especially given your read of how fast he plays strong made hands.
i honestly felt i was value-towning myself if i 3bet the flop with intentions of stacking off. i mean i doubt he's sticking it in with 77-JJ here even with one heart. and KK+ is being 3bet pre a lot. that leaves sets (which may or may not be willing to felt on the flop, but will definitely continue to the 3b) and Ahx in his continuing range. the other problem i have with stacking off 250bb deep on the flop is that the bottom of his stack-off range has 30-35% equity (9 combos of sets) and the rest crushes me (ie he flopped a flush and i have one out) so i felt like felting here was pretty suicidial this deep. there's a few Ahxh combos, as well as KThh+, QThh+, JThh.
also, i agree that the sizing sucks. and i prefer betting $6 or $6.50 here.
please pick apart that logic as deemed necessary
I read that as 25NL 100 deep for some reason this morning not 10NL 250 deep lol. You're likely not in good shape at all vs his stack off range here yeah, which will be maybe TT JJ with a heart, maybe not and prolly no worse pairs. He may still felt Ahx but yeah I can defo dig just calling given these stack sizes and the effect they'll have on his felting range on this flop.