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Hi guys,
I'm currently playing NL10 6-max.
I've got one leak that I'm trying to plug in which is everytime I reach >160bb deep, I either:
- play scared because I don't want to lose the money or
- I leave the table and find another so I can start back with 100bb.
What adjustments can you make if we have position on a loose passive with super deep stack?
Well, first of all, remember that it's effective stacks that matter.
The main advantage of playing deep is that you get more implied odds. You're a better player, so when you beat your opponents at showdown, it's going to be for more money (unless you're not a better player, in which case you need to get off the table).
You might be more inclined to 3bet light, or cold call with suited connectors, though remember, you're still mainly looking to take the pot away often enough to make it worth while; the implied odds are just a bonus.
If you call someone who's 160BB deep with you, raising 4BB and you think you can get them all in 1 time out of 40, win every time you do, and fold otherwise, it's a break even move to call them. Added to that you will be winning smaller pots on occation, either at showdown, or by bluffing, think about calling with suited gappers, and suited connected aces, against players who are likely to get it all in post flop, or play weakly.
Having said all this, there's no shame in leaving if you think you no longer have an edge over the table. If I see a good player come to my table, I leave. There's nothing I can do about that, but you can get used to playing deep. Maybe go to Stars NL2 for a few thousand hands - it's 250BB deep. You do want to get over this, because what you're doing now is leaving any table you beat.
Personally, if I'm at a table, it's because I think I'm better than it, and if I think I'm better than it, I want the most money possible in front of me.
Well i would think that suited connectors would gain a lot of value once you get deep. Assuming villain is also deep. Hands like over pairs also lose value or atleast become more difficult to play as effective stakes become deeper.
While you're not supposed to think of money at the tables, a lot of people do so, although probably to varying extents and not necessarily all the time. So maybe it will help if you remember there are probably other people at your table who are thinking that way, and thus playing scared. If you have a larger stack and are able to identify them, it gives you an additional profit opportunity. You know how they think, now the next step is learning to use that knowledge to your advantage. And as your appreciation of big stacks increases, you may well see your tentativeness about them decline.
effective stack size, and identifying villains against whom you are truly deep
position, position, position
realistic perception of implied odds, people aren't stacking off deep that lightly most of the time