25NL:Picked up draw on the turn OOP

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10-04-2009, 11:08 PM
clvacva

25NL:Picked up draw on the turn OOP

villain was calling every god damn time on the button. I had for the most part cbet and c/f the turn.

So guy was calling alot on the BTN saw him show down like J7 and suited connecters. On the flop I went for the standard cbet. I put his calling range at: TT,88,77,66,98,9T,J9,A9,K9,Q9,JT,KJ,AJ,J8,J7,45,se ts,straight draws.Maybe air sometimes cuz I was cbetting all the time and had c/f all turns so I'm like super easy to float lol.

Turn I picked up some nice outs. Is this a good spot to double barrel. I mean he is only folding his air/4x. A nine or Jack is probably never folding. I was gonna c/c but he bet so much which he had not done before. last times he had bet like 3ish. READ?

Like I stated before I had c/f a ton here so he could still have a wide range in this spot.

So c/c but can I get his stack if I hit my flush/K/T?
should I just have b/f b/c b/3b the turn?
c/r the turn since his range is probably still wide?

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JJakcydJJ ($11.35)
UTG+1 jbliz ($25.80)
CO Hero ($35.70)
BTN Ryvel ($14.80)
SB Buck1eyes ($36.85)
BB xcbrx ($38.70)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO :kh: :8h:
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Ryvel calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: :9h: :4s: :jc: ($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, Ryvel calls $1.50

Turn: :7h: ($5.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, Ryvel bets $4, $4 to Hero ($33.2)?
10-04-2009, 11:24 PM
Donkafelts

If Villian has adjusted to your c bet / c/f by floating and then taking it away exploit him by c betting for value as opposed to continuing stealing. Wait to hit something, then check turn and when he steals decide from there. Ie. imo c/f flop as played villian has wide range on turn so exploit that by double barreling with your outs.
10-06-2009, 01:24 AM
clvacva

I kind of had mapped out what I was gonna do on the turn regardless of the card for what its worth.............C/R that sob.

I like this hand cuz it made me realize I am playing marginal hand OOP.
10-06-2009, 02:31 AM
surviva316

given reads, it sounds like your PF/flop action is an attempt to give this guy as much money as possible as easily as possible. c/f'ing turn is wtfareyoutalkingabout.

i can def get behind a double barrel if he's truly been calling as many cbets as it sounds like he has.
10-06-2009, 02:44 AM
Sup3rM4N

B/F turn, i like around 3-3.5. B/C any heart river obviously n maybe any T as well. You can decide between B/F any K river or C/C depending on reads/villain. I like B/F smallish around half pot on K high river.

Edit: Just noticed villain doesn't have a full stack. I would B/C any K river as well due to stack size.
10-06-2009, 07:40 AM
Carroters

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Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN

B/F turn, i like around 3-3.5. B/C any heart river obviously n maybe any T as well. You can decide between B/F any K river or C/C depending on reads/villain. I like B/F smallish around half pot on K high river.

Edit: Just noticed villain doesn't have a full stack. I would B/C any K river as well due to stack size.

This. His range is likely still pretty wide on this turn if he's flatting like close to any two preflop. You have plenty equity after that awesome turn card and can expect a fold some of the time given he maywell be calling the flop with like 33 66 A4 and utter crap like that.

Checking just puts you in a spot where he has control of the hand and yur decision now comes down to pot odds and implied odds only since I wouldn't make it habitual to check raise semi bluff turns vs a donk like this.

As played call and town him on any heart or T river.
10-06-2009, 10:41 AM
Micro2Macro

Re: 25NL:Picked up draw on the turn OOP

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Originally Posted by clvacva

villain was calling every god damn time on the button. I had for the most part cbet and c/f the turn.

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I was cbetting all the time and had c/f all turns so I'm like super easy to float lol.

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Turn I picked up some nice outs.

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Like I stated before I had c/f a ton here so he could still have a wide range in this spot.

I don't think we need to tell you why c/c sucks here. As for b/f or c/shove, it depends alot...might be interesting to run the math on each and figure out if a c/shove is worth the price compared to just barreling, thought he may not fold often enough to make it profitable if he feels committed after betting the turn. Remember, we have outs - we are semibluffing - this doesn't need to be good as often as a pure bluff especially since we may get paid on the river if we hit.
10-06-2009, 11:22 AM
clvacva

Thanks for the replies.

Well I c/r him all in and he snapped called with T8. I thought he would be able to fold his weak holdings he just happened to have the goods :P

Some good lessons here THANKS :cool: