Button 3b light against reg - bad flop?

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07-06-2009, 08:07 PM
AFchung

Button 3b light against reg - bad flop?

Villain is 18/12/2.4
Fold to 3bet 77%

I noticed he opened 3x with a marginal hand (44) but opened 4-5x with QQ. I usually 3bet light against people with higher fold to 3bet %'s but I decided to take it a shot at it since I had the bet size note. Oh, and 34s was too pretty to just fold

Do I cbet this flop? What would his continuing range be besides TT+?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($62.15)
BB ($54.60)
UTG ($42.50)
UTG+1 ($47.15)
MP1 ($64.55)
MP2 ($90.80)
CO ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
3 folds, MP2 bets $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $3

Flop: ($9.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP2 calls $5.50

Turn: ($20.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($20.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $20.75 | Rake: $1
07-06-2009, 08:20 PM
JKDS

fold to 3b of 77% is great no? and its likely higher if your read is accurate.

34s is probably the bottom of my 3b bluff range, but its like automatic against this guy.

id bet more on the flop actually, but he should continue with more than TT+ against a btn steal. With the betsize note, its more likely to be like 44-99, suited crap
07-06-2009, 08:30 PM
hangchiong

Re: Button 3b light against reg - bad flop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFchung

Do I cbet this flop? What would his continuing range be besides TT+?

100% cbet on this flop really.Would be nice to see his fold to flop cbet stats as well when 3-betting(helps a bit).

To continue on this flop?Its gotta be pretty wide with 55+,Axo,although he folds 77% of the time to 3bet.
07-08-2009, 06:08 PM
BankItDrew

Why did you bet so small on the flop? Do you want a call? There has to be a reason for every bet and size of bet you make.
07-09-2009, 02:41 AM
aka_red

pick better hands to 3b with and dont cb this flop
07-09-2009, 05:48 AM
AFchung

Quote:

Originally Posted by reDZill4

pick better hands to 3b with and dont cb this flop

whats wrong with doing this against this villain?

couldnt we at least 3bet light relying solely on preflop FE, and give up on flop since his range is so strong
07-09-2009, 11:01 AM
pokerfan

i dont like your preflop hand selection.
07-09-2009, 11:47 AM
aka_red

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFchung

Quote:

Originally Posted by reDZill4

pick better hands to 3b with and dont cb this flop

whats wrong with doing this against this villain?

couldnt we at least 3bet light relying solely on preflop FE, and give up on flop since his range is so strong

yeah he is gonna fold alot but when he calls your equity is going to be horrendous stove 34s vs TT+,AK
07-09-2009, 11:51 AM
mcatdog

PF is fine, I check back the flop.
07-10-2009, 10:47 AM
daven

pre-flop is good. When a 77% fold to 3-bet type calls you gotta think his range is getting strong - he's not folding much of that range on this flop and checking this flop behind with 8-outs is nice, and is more likely to result in villain taking a turn stab/calling down if you do hit the straight.