Operation : Silver star and clear 10NL+ learn full ring

Time for me to announce my new operation. I'm in the same boat as Wonderland, at the end of April my bankroll was $250 on stars and FPP's were 297. My first deposit bonus expires on 9th June so I need 210 (already had a few fpp's from before I deposited) in the next 6 weeks. I had been playing 5NL and had got to the stage where I was beating 5NL and thinking anout moving up to 10NL but wasn't sure when exactly I should make the leap.

The 50$ bonus is an incentive to get the FPP's and at 5NL I was getting ~10 per night and adding in the fact that I won't be playing much for probably 10 days in the next 6 weeks it was going to get tight. Stars also announced there silver star promotion for UK players so I only need 250 fpps in May to achieve it.......... SO...... it's time to make the leap and 10NL here I come.

I started with ~$250 and have set myself a $190 floor on the bankroll before I have to move back down to 5NL. I started off with one table of 10NL open , so that I could concentrate , get used to the new level and try to develop reads on what the plays at this level actually meant.
I normally play quite a LAGgy game and run 33/22 ish at 6max, BUT having read Robb's advice to tighten up whilst initially moving up thats what I did. 113 hand in I was playing 13/9 and had lost $30. WHAT?????? Jeez I was punch drunk . I got stacked with a full house , a set and the first one was with top pair no kicker( ok i was stupid with that one) but what made it worse was that most of the money went to the 75/4 fish I had position on who was bleeding money to everyone else but when I hit my monsters , he had better ones. Feeling bad I shut the 10 NL table down for the night and played 5NL and managed to bleed a bit more before recovering and getting a 2$ profit on the 5NL play to leave the bankroll on $222.

I was thinking about it all day yesterday , and wondering whether I should be dropping down to 5NL and grind it back up to $250 again before trying again. In the end set vs set and boat vs boat were just coolers , top pair NK vs slow played flopped double gutshot straight was a hand I should have been playing for a small pot , not a stack and the raise all in on the river should have got me out of the hand cheaper . Oh well ,$10 now to learn the modest changes in other peoples play was a price worth paying. ( I hope I only have to pay it once though). The other main differences I found were :-
min raises - WTF .....they seem to be everywhere ...oh well seems as though they are the nuts and sign to be cautious at 10NL ...at 5NL they just seemed to be crappy players who weren't too sure how good their hand was.
3betting - THere seems to be an abundance of 3 betting PF usually resulting in a fold....5nl it was just a 3bet,4bet, 5bet all in war.....I think I'm going to have to experiment with my AA,KK,QQ,AK type hands to see what the best way to get value is.Its also made me wonder whether I should be looking to 3bet lighter with hands like AJ,AT, KQs, QJs as a steal in position since people seem to be folding a lot more to the 3bet. Depending on how it goes it might mean that the odd suited connectors may also fall into this camp.

OK , so you may have noticed this is a day late but it took til getting home last night to decided that the move down level of $190 was there for a reason, ,it allowed for mistakes while I get used to this new level and some variance. Therefore it was time to start again and keep a close eye on how close I was to the $190 if I did lose some stacks but that I should continue with 10NL . Combined with the fact that I didn't want to start an Op and have to abandon it inside of 2 days means that I'm posting this today. Last nights play will follow in the next post.

so, now I'm home for lunch I can post the graph from last night. Obviously from the first post I didn't crash out and burn .......in fact it was the complete opposite with a 6BI heater.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/741/may02.jpg

bankroll stands at $282.43 Fpp's 346 ......so 49FPP's this month out of the required 250 ...erm ...looks a cert lol

1082 hands now at 10NL in the last 2 days. I started out last night playing 1 table .....managed to get 2 stacks with KK vs AK which put me in a more relaxed frame of mind , so I started to add more tables until I finished with 3 tables for most of the session and logging nearly 900 hands last night. My play reverted more to my 5NL style , slightly less laggy generally but still LAGgy , and the fish kept swimming in .

I'm happier now . friday night was disheartening , but last night has made me realise that I can beat 10NL, I just have to concentrate , learn and find the fish.
edit: how do you get holdem manager hands to work with the hand converter , I keep getting errors when I try.

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Good luck man! 10nl is ez once you get used to how it plays. (I play FR, so its obv probly a lil different, but no biggie.)

Get dem monies

A brutal nights poker again . Bankroll back down to $256.23 and 372 FPP (175 to go).
got stacked twice but it was mainly a case of hands not holding up/draws not hitting or not getting paid off when they did.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG nerijuzz ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($10.40)
CO Aivla ($18.40)
BTN ruitsan ($23.25)
SB Shishio13 ($16.65)
BB Baal Je? ($11.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :qs: :qh:
nerijuzz calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, Aivla raises to $1.50, 3 folds, nerijuzz folds, Hero raises to $4.10, Aivla calls $2.60

Flop: :jh: :4s: :4c: ($8.45, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $6.30, Aivla calls $6.30

Turn: :7d: ($21.05, 2 players)

River: :js: ($21.05, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.05
Hero shows: :qs: :qh:
Aivla shows: :ah: :as:

Aivla wins $20.05 ( won +$9.65 )
nerijuzz lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$10.40


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Aivla ($13.20)
CO Chrumcajs ($15.15)
BTN Shishio13 ($19.65)
SB nerijuzz ($11.20)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :jd: :jh:
Aivla calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Aivla calls $0.30

Flop: :3c: :6d: :4c: ($0.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, Aivla raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $5.20, Aivla goes all-in $12.80, Hero goes all-in $4.40

Turn: :6c: ($23.25, 2 players)

River: :2d: ($23.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.05
Hero shows: :jd: :jh:
Aivla shows: :kc: :9c:

Aivla wins $22.25 ( won +$9.05 )
Hero lost -$10.00

What made you 4bet QQ in that first hand? I would normally flat there vs. most villains and play somewhat cautiously postflop.

He'd been 3betting me a lot, 1st hand was actually after the second one chronologically and I talked myself into thinking he was 3betting light . It does seem to be a recurring theme from last night and the first night that I'm playing my overpairs too aggressively. Although I did stove the second hand ,after i stopped fdor the night and I think I was 53:46 favourite when the money went in.
In hindsight , 2 of the tables I was on I should have stood up and left.This one because Aivla was 3betting me so often , and another one where Baal Je was on my right, but he was open raising virtually every once he was MP or later.He'd bluff lead with air for two streets then give up on the river.It didn't feel nicewith him doing it regularly.On the other table he was hardly doing a thing and he was running stats 26 24 but most of the time it was on the one table.

That QQ is just a cooler, needs strong reads to flat oop. Your sizing sucks tho, repopping that 15BB to 30BB gives him more room to make a mistake and encourage bad calls or induce something spazzy. As played I think c/c frop is good.

JJ Id prob flat flop and b/f a lot of turncards.

these are fridays hands (now that Ive found a way to convert them)
allinjul was 19/10. I was aiming to check raise the flop .

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG+1 allinjulo33 ($33.40)
CO Priptonite ($11.90)
BTN Coolpirate ($7.30)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB Rabinibal ($30.10)
[Roccelroc posted $0.05]
[Hero posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 6 players) Hero is SB :4c: :4h:
allinjulo33 raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: :kc: :4d: :7s: ($1.05, 2 players)
Hero checks, allinjulo33 checks

Turn: :jh: ($1.05, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, allinjulo33 raises to $2, Hero goes all-in $9.60, allinjulo33 calls $7.60

River: :8d: ($20.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.10

Hero shows: :4c: :4h:
allinjulo33 shows: :7d: :7h:

allinjulo33 wins $19.10 ( won +$9.10 )
Hero lost -$10.05

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Rabinibal ($29.55)
UTG+1 allinjulo33 ($42.20)
CO Priptonite ($10.90)
BTN Coolpirate ($6.05)
SB Roccelroc ($8.60)
BB Hero ($11.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :2c: :kd:
4 folds, Roccelroc calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: :6s: :2h: :ks: ($0.20, 2 players)
Roccelroc checks, Hero bets $0.20, Roccelroc calls $0.20

Turn: :jh: ($0.60, 2 players)
Roccelroc checks, Hero bets $0.50, Roccelroc raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: :2d: ($2.60, 2 players)
Roccelroc bets $2.50, Hero raises to $6.20, Roccelroc raises to $7.30, Hero calls $1.10

Final Pot: $17.20
Roccelroc shows: :jc: :jd:
Hero shows: :2c: :kd:

Roccelroc wins $16.35 ( won +$7.75 )
Hero lost -$8.60

You got coolered the exact same way twice by a player that wasn't even in the hand?!? JEEZ

Aint got a clue WTF happened there it was allright when i previewed it. I'll go back and re edit it .

tonights session was 250 hands 2 tables NR now 252.08 and fpps 275. Hit diddly squat again and Aivla appeared on one of my tables again playing the same way. Heres his stats
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2981/aivla.jpg
Am I reading them right in that hes 3betting with virtually all his raising range?

this hand tonight was while I was heads up after starting a table with no reads
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Cameron Hape ($3.70)
BB Hero ($12.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 2 players) Hero is BB :ad: :js:
Cameron Hape raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.70, Cameron Hape calls $0.30

Flop: :2h: :6h: :kc: ($1.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, Cameron Hape goes all-in $3, Hero calls $2

Turn: :4d: ($7.40, 2 players)

River: :jh: ($7.40, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.40
Hero shows: :ad: :js:
Cameron Hape shows: :2c: :6c:

Cameron Hape wins $7.05 ( won +$3.35 )
Hero lost -$3.70

slightly annoying that he called the 3bet with his 62 but hey it was sooted.In hindsight I should have 3bet bigger but was trying to keep him in rather than blowing him out of the hand.


this hand Abu was 86/34/7 over 45 hands 100% cbet
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chrumcajs ($6.65)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN Twin Balls 2 ($2.95)
SB jsveen ($1.80)
BB abu84187 ($14.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :jc: :tc:
Chrumcajs raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, Twin Balls 2 calls $0.20, 1 fold, abu84187 raises to $0.30, Chrumcajs calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, Twin Balls 2 calls $0.10

Flop: :2c: :jh: :3s: ($1.25, 4 players)
abu84187 bets $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold

Turn: :2d: ($4.75, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: :8h: ($6.75, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero calls $1

Final Pot: $8.75
Hero shows: :jc: :tc:
abu84187 shows: :jd: :qh:

abu84187 wins $8.35 ( won +$4.30 )
Hero lost -$4.05
Twin Balls 2 lost -$0.30
Chrumcajs lost -$0.30

in this hand pumpoen was 54/8/0.7 over 26 hands and had seen him bluff with air.I didnt think he had the K on the flop and was most likely on a flush draw or Ax or pocket pair.Talked myself into continuing when the flush draw and flush came , and river was called just in case he had the K or 2 rather than raising it. I was hoping that he'd got the Ax or PP hands .
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO b&k1974 ($5.70)
BTN Arda1983 ($4.05)
SB Hero ($11.80)
BB Pumpoen ($6.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is SB :qh: :ah:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, Pumpoen calls $0.20

Flop: :2h: :2d: :kd: ($0.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Pumpoen raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: :kh: ($2.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pumpoen bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: :3h: ($3.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, Pumpoen bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Final Pot: $6
Hero shows: :qh: :ah:
Pumpoen shows: :kc: :tc:

Pumpoen wins $5.75 ( won +$2.75 )
Hero lost -$3

this just about sums up my draw hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chrumcajs ($5.20)
CO Hero ($10.45)
BTN emunderscore ($9.65)
SB Twin Balls 2 ($5.55)
BB abu84187 ($21.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :qc: :jc:
Chrumcajs calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, abu84187 calls $0.30, Chrumcajs folds

Flop: :kc: :tc: :td: ($0.95, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: :2d: ($1.45, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: :7s: ($2.45, 2 players)
abu84187 bets $1, Hero folds

Final Pot: $2.45

abu84187 wins $3.35 ( won +$1.20 )
Hero lost -$1.15
Chrumcajs lost -$0.10

should I have shoved on the flop with roughly 15(?) outs and 2 cards to come. It was only because it was against the agro monkey I thought i could let him bet and call until the outs hit.

bankroll 244.88 fpps 397 (100 collected so far this month)

really annoying session. I was up to $280 and then just started spewing.

AJ - I dont get it. With stack sizes this is awful. U see how 3balling to whatever size makes u feel commited on any board, rather shovel or flat pre. Dont blame him for calling a min3bet in position, think what 3balling has accomplished.

JT - I usually tone down on my cold calls, when theres someone squeeze happy left to act and Im not otb. As played your line is fine given reads and his sizing

AQ - Depends on how likely you are to outplay him on later streets. We can float the minraise vs nittags who will take one stab and then give up, vs this guy we´ll end up playing the guessing game. If you´re going to float him donk this turn, to get value from FDs and fold out 33-66

QJ - Def try to get it in, gotta raise/4ball tho, just shoveling kills our action with stack-/pot size

[quote="XTR1000"] AJ - I dont get it. With stack sizes this is awful. U see how 3balling to whatever size makes u feel commited on any board, rather shovel or flat pre. Dont blame him for calling a min3bet in position, think what 3balling has accomplished.
[\quote]
I was probably expecting to resteal. In hind sight is call preflop , check fold flop a better line ?

Quote:

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JT - I usually tone down on my cold calls, when theres someone squeeze happy left to act and Im not otb. As played your line is fine given reads and his sizing
AQ - Depends on how likely you are to outplay him on later streets. We can float the minraise vs nittags who will take one stab and then give up, vs this guy we´ll end up playing the guessing game. If you´re going to float him donk this turn, to get value from FDs and fold out 33-66

QJ - Def try to get it in, gotta raise/4ball tho, just shoveling kills our action with stack-/pot size

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would you go to $1 on the flop then . or higher?

had a good session today , bit of a cooler athe end losing 13$ to a set but BR =282.83 and fpp's 415 (118 ) 90 to go to cloear 1st deposit bonus.
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/801/may7.jpg

had AA twice within 8 hands on 1 table to take two stacks.
starting off with the main losing hand of the session, Should I be 3betting this bigger preflop to take away set odds ?



$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG grifoman ($13.80)
CO Hafter ($16.20)
BTN IgotsUrMoney ($2.80)
SB Hero ($51.65)
BB Eva9014 ($10.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB :qh: :qs:
grifoman raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, Eva9014 calls $0.90, grifoman calls $0.70

Flop: :8h: :4c: :6c: ($3, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.60, Eva9014 folds, grifoman raises to $5.20, Hero raises to $15, grifoman goes all-in $7.60

Turn: :9s: ($30.80, 2 players)

River: :4d: ($30.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $28.60
Hero shows: :qh: :qs:
grifoman shows: :8c: :8d:

Hero wins $2.20 ( lost -$13.80 )
grifoman wins $27.20 ( won +$13.40 )
Eva9014 lost -$1




This hand I found weird with his turn raise , I didn't think he had 33 or a 4 and Thought he had probably got a PP. ruled out AA,KK as I thought he'd have 4bet me PF.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO MM Charon ($12.15)
BTN zrefz ($11.40)
SB Hero ($13.00)
BB King_Herfst ($10.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is SB :qd: :kh:
1 fold, zrefz raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: :4h: :4c: :qc: ($0.70, 2 players)
Hero checks, zrefz bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, zrefz calls $0.80

Turn: :3d: ($3.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, zrefz raises to $3.60, Hero calls $2.30

River: :6c: ($10.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, zrefz goes all-in $6.30, Hero calls $6.30

Final Pot: $22.90
zrefz shows: :8s: :8d:
Hero shows: :qd: :kh:

Hero wins $21.80 ( won +$10.40 )
zrefz lost -$11.40


I think this hand is pretty standard.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG francisnewtn ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($18.85)
CO AARONLYON ($8.55)
BTN bersekus ($10.00)
SB nussi_oioi ($7.50)
BB ptichou ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :as: :ad:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, nussi_oioi raises to $1.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.10, nussi_oioi goes all-in $7.50, Hero calls $5.40

Flop: :4s: :3h: :5d: ($15.10, 2 players)

Turn: :qh: ($15.10, 2 players)

River: :qc: ($15.10, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15.10
Hero shows: :as: :ad:
nussi_oioi shows: :kd: :ks:

Hero wins $14.35 ( won +$6.85 )
nussi_oioi lost -$7.50


this hand came up 3 minutes later on the same table. I tried to make it look like i was trying to bully them off the pot. Was it too aggro?

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG francisnewtn ($10.05)
CO Hero ($25.80)
BTN bersekus ($10.00)
SB nussi_oioi ($9.90)
BB ptichou ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :ac: :ad:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, bersekus raises to $1, 1 fold, ptichou calls $0.90, Hero raises to $23.20, bersekus folds, ptichou goes all-in $9.10

Flop: :5s: :ks: :9c: ($34.35, 2 players)

Turn: :4d: ($34.35, 2 players)

River: :7d: ($34.35, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.25
Hero shows: :ac: :ad:
ptichou shows: :th: :td:

Hero wins $33.30 ( won +$10.10 )
bersekus lost -$1
ptichou lost -$10.10

this hand flopped my set and time to get the money in.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG kilsonsena ($10.45)
UTG+1 snoopjoc ($14.50)
CO Jimbo_pt ($9.35)
BTN stifffler230 ($15.40)
SB tofu soup ($12.70)
BB Hero ($10.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :7s: :7c:
3 folds, stifffler230 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: :9c: :7d: :kh: ($0.85, 2 players)
Hero checks, stifffler230 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $2.10, stifffler230 raises to $3.70, Hero raises to $5.30, stifffler230 goes all-in $15, Hero goes all-in $5

Turn: :4c: ($26.15, 2 players)

River: :jh: ($26.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.45
stifffler230 shows: :kd: :ad:
Hero shows: :7s: :7c:

stifffler230 wins $4.70 ( lost -$10.70 )
Hero wins $20.40 ( won +$9.70 )


this hand I tried betting the flop small to try and induce a raise as he was a short stacker and didn't want him checking behind for free by going for a check raise.He was 33/8/4
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Eva9014 ($10.00)
CO grifoman ($11.05)
BTN gitano_maki ($3.90)
SB Hafter ($14.80)
BB Hero ($42.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :ks: :kd:
2 folds, gitano_maki calls $0.10, Hafter calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, gitano_maki calls $0.30, Hafter folds

Flop: :7h: :7s: :9d: ($0.90, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, gitano_maki goes all-in $3.50, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: :4s: ($7.90, 2 players)

River: :2c: ($7.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.90
Hero shows: :ks: :kd:
gitano_maki shows: :9s: :6d:

Hero wins $7.55 ( won +$3.65 )
gitano_maki lost -$3.90
Hafter lost -$0.10

back to the QJ: a 4x raise seems too big, 0.8 seems fine as it gives him more room to 3ball

QQ - fine

KQ - weird line by the villian, sweet line on your part.

AA - This is fine as long as people 3b bluff rarely and call off a 4bet shove with enough weak hands. In general this will fold out a lot of his range tho and more importantly takes away his FE (from his pov) to 5bet shovel himself.

77 - This is okay. There will come a time, where u cant play it that hard on a flop this dry, where u cant rep a load, as long people stack off on TPGK+ its a cool line to take.

KK - I like, Im experimenting with smaller bets on dry boards as well. If you get caught doing this with strong hands, you can bluff here with smaller bets as well.

its been a busy couple of days , so I haven't got many hands in . Played some on thursday night and was pretty card dead and ended up at $271.23 and added the grand total of 1fpp.

Was late home on friday and since its been 4.30am starts this weekend watched a 10nl video from TAGpoker.co.uk before heading off to bed.

Managed to get a shortish session in last night even though I was tired. Actually had position on A 98/84 over his first 30 hands or so and a 84/0 sat next to him.
Bankroll now at $284.18 and 423 fpps (halfway to silver star).Bit annoying that I was working so that I couldn't take part in the Full tilt freeroll after the last two turned into rubbish ones ,this was actually a case of playing against a lot of familiar names.

had a good session tonight except for a couple of bad beats (stacks sort) . 900 hands BR now 303.48 (peaked about 325) fpps 458 which catches up a bit on the lack over the last few days.about 50 more for the bonus to kick in .

put in 300 hands in a shortish session last night (cos I was tired) and BR finished at $300.28 fpps 471. Having the night off tonight as I'm totally knackered worked 7AM to 9.30 PM .

This was the main losing hand
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG pirke_nis ($5.20)
UTG+1 yackfou666 ($10.00)
CO Hero ($12.15)
BTN Fat2010 ($12.05)
SB roncrx ($12.05)
BB Lotus98T ($24.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :ts: :as:
pirke_nis calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, pirke_nis calls $0.40

Flop: :ad: :7h: :9s: ($1.15, 2 players)
pirke_nis checks, Hero bets $0.80, pirke_nis raises to $1.60, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: :th: ($4.35, 2 players)
pirke_nis goes all-in $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

River: :9c: ($10.55, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.55
pirke_nis shows: :9h: :ac:
Hero shows: :ts: :as:

pirke_nis wins $10.05 ( won +$4.85 )
Hero lost -$5.20

This hand at least I didnt keep firing .
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG muckumshiddy ($11.85)
CO BETrbeSURE ($15.30)
BTN mentalist123 ($8.45)
SB arpinko ($13.60)
BB Hero ($11.05)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :jc: :tc:
mentalist123 says "hahaha", muckumshiddy raises to $0.30, mentalist123 says "85 off you call there ?", BETrbeSURE calls $0.30, mentalist123 says "u are better than arpi", mentalist123 says "omg", 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: :6h: :ts: :5c: ($0.95, 3 players)
BETrbeSURE says "ty", mentalist123 says "lol", Hero bets $0.70, muckumshiddy folds, BETrbeSURE raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70

Turn: :8d: ($3.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, BETrbeSURE bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: :2h: ($6.35, 2 players)
Hero checks, BETrbeSURE checks, arpinko says "82s OOP ? :) ..lol, I know, you have to play that, was suited :)"

Final Pot: $6.35
BETrbeSURE shows: :5s: :6c:
Hero shows: :jc: :tc:

BETrbeSURE wins $6.05 ( won +$3.05 )
muckumshiddy lost -$0.30
Hero lost -$3




must start to think about folding to raises post flop when I only have top pair
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG roncrx ($12.65)
UTG+1 Lotus98T ($20.75)
CO pirke_nis ($5.35)
BTN yackfou666 ($10.00)
SB Hero ($13.95)
BB Fat2010 ($12.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :jc: :th:
1 fold, Lotus98T calls $0.10, pirke_nis calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, Fat2010 checks

Flop: :6s: :6c: :ts: ($0.40, 4 players)
Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Lotus98T raises to $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: :js: ($2, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lotus98T bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

River: :ad: ($6.20, 2 players)
Hero checks, Lotus98T checks

Final Pot: $6.20
Hero shows: :jc: :th:
Lotus98T shows: :qs: :qd:

Lotus98T wins $5.90 ( won +$2.90 )
pirke_nis lost -$0.10
Hero lost -$3
Fat2010 lost -$0.10


then again , I got lucky in this hand
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Lotus98T ($19.20)
UTG+1 pirke_nis ($5.65)
CO ssg hoagy ($6.00)
BTN Hero ($10.40)
SB bohoccc ($4.50)
BB roncrx ($14.45)
[ssg hoagy posted $0.05]

Pre-flop: ($0.20, 6 players) Hero is BTN :kh: :ks:
Lotus98T calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, bohoccc calls $0.35, 1 fold, Lotus98T calls $0.30

Flop: :9c: :7c: :8s: ($1.35, 3 players)
bohoccc bets $0.60, Lotus98T calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2, bohoccc goes all-in $4.10, Lotus98T folds, Hero calls $2.10

Turn: :8c: ($10.15, 2 players)

River: :kc: ($10.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.15
Hero shows: :kh: :ks:
bohoccc shows: :qc: :td:

Hero wins $9.65 ( won +$5.15 )
bohoccc lost -$4.50
Lotus98T lost -$1



what do you think of the turn bet size here?
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Goldarowana ($11.40)
UTG+1 kaaex ($15.00)
CO Hero ($11.45)
BTN DocBrown74 ($19.50)
SB arpinko ($10.00)
BB salo639 ($9.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :8h: :8c:
Goldarowana calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, salo639 calls $0.30, Goldarowana calls $0.30

Flop: :9s: :8s: :3d: ($1.25, 3 players)
salo639 bets $0.50, Goldarowana calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2, salo639 folds, Goldarowana calls $1.50

Turn: :kd: ($5.75, 2 players)
Goldarowana checks, Hero bets $3.30, Goldarowana folds

Final Pot: $5.75

Hero wins $8.80 ( won +$3.10 )
salo639 lost -$0.90
Goldarowana lost -$2.40

bit of a nightmare last night , finished down 3 BI with bankrolll at 271.63 fpps 492 (13 for bonus 55 for silver star)

I must stop stacking off with over pairs , it seems to be costing me a fortune.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG CzechGenius ($5.50)
CO Elmero78176 ($14.50)
BTN AllinPeen ($14.85)
SB Hero ($10.05)
BB nior139555 ($10.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB :qd: :qs:
2 folds, AllinPeen raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, AllinPeen calls $0.90

Flop: :5d: :6h: :4s: ($2.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, AllinPeen raises to $4.40, Hero goes all-in $8.85, AllinPeen calls $4.45

Turn: :9c: ($20.20, 2 players)

River: :kc: ($20.20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.20
AllinPeen shows: :ah: :ac:
Hero shows: :qd: :qs:

AllinPeen wins $19.20 ( won +$9.15 )
Hero lost -$10.05


this hand i didn't think he had the flush as it came from runer runner and I thought my turn bet would have priced out flush draws.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO veritto ($10.95)
BTN Kokkso ($3.85)
SB proJJkeke ($9.20)
BB Hero ($12.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 4 players) Hero is BB :td: :ac:
2 folds, proJJkeke raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: :qc: :8h: :ks: ($0.80, 2 players)
proJJkeke bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: :js: ($2, 2 players)
proJJkeke bets $1.20, Hero raises to $2.40, proJJkeke calls $1.20

River: :6s: ($6.80, 2 players)
proJJkeke goes all-in $5.80, Hero calls $5.80

Final Pot: $18.40
proJJkeke shows: :7s: :8s:
Hero shows: :td: :ac:

proJJkeke wins $17.50 ( won +$8.30 )
Hero lost -$9.20

Played about 500 hands last night on 10NL for a net $2.90 gain so that atthe end of cash game my BR was $274.43. Played in the FTR200 as well , bit of a chat with M2M at the table and surprised myself playing 13/12 ( I'm not a nit honestly) and M2M was on 38/33 bit of a role reversal. Managed to take down 4th place for $20. When I checked my cashier at the end of the night my fpps are 505 and an email had arrived from the cashier

Quote:

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Dear Keith_MM, Congratulations! You have fully earned your Deposit Bonus. YourPokerStars account has been credited in the amount of $50.00. Thanks for participating in the PokerStars First Deposit 2009, and we'll see you at the tables. The PokerStars [email protected]

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so yay to me , bankroll is now at $344.43 and need another 42fpp to clear the silverstar.

Hey man great job on the tourney cash! I knew you were gonna place. Now if only that tournament would go faster or something maybe I wouldn't have donked my stack haha, oh well bar>freeroll.

Well last night was one hell of a rollercoaster. Cashier dipped down to $330 climbed to 390 ishbefore settling at $357.43 at close of play. 550 fpps 253 this month , so with the UK offer I've cleared silver star for next month. Bit of a bummer really as those cash bonuses for the fpps are only for silver star players in may , so I'm hoping they will still be about ready for next month.

I'm still spewing money with good hands, but I was trying to concentrate last night on big pot big hand and small hand small pot.
I was also bet folding a lot more , whereas in the past it would have been bet/call or check call and would have spewed off more money.Had a $30 win stacking two people,and lost a $30 pot .The second was annoying as flopped a set , villain bet , I 3x raised and he shoved all in with his flush draw. when the money went in I was 74:26 equity wise and he rivered his flush.

HEM trial ran out overnight as well ,So I am stumping up the cash for it today. I think that HEM is a lot more advanced in the stats side of things , but PT3 had some features that I liked. Hopefully once I get the license code I can post some of the hands from last night.
One thing I noticed is that I tried to get the last weeks hand history emailed from stars and it only sent the last 200 hands. Which is piss poor as I played about 1400 hands last night. I consciously tried to tighten up a bit last night as well and generally was playing 24/18 ish .

My next major decision is going to be where to move my roll to and when.I havew about $150 on WH which when i move it from sports side to poker side will be entitled to 100% first depositors bonus. Seems like I have to clear all of the points before it gets paid over though. timeless poker is looking like an option whilst i still have a relatively small roll , 40% rakeback and 100% on $100 firts deposit bonus.

Just read through your OP... congrats on the bonus and BR build. I am in the same boat now. BR keeps swinging between 275-330 and am at 377.5 fpps so end of the month is my goal for bonus. Nice to see it done and done so fast from your original start date.

well the swings are continuing , saturday night , I couldn't win hardly anything , was all in twice with the nuts and tied the pot and was sucked out on sooo many times. Luckily didnt get stacked but had to fold once the board turned horrible on the river and villains kept shoving. At the end of the night I was down to $331.43 and FPPs were 568.

Tonight was a totally different beast, lost some hands early (as iusual) but then hit a roll and cards were kind to me as well. 480 hands in 2 1/2 hours for a 24.50 profit. Bankroll is 355.93 and fpps are 586.
main loss was
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Bakmeius ($10.05)
UTG+1 janiboi88 ($10.25)
CO Hero ($33.40)
BTN cola004 ($9.85)
SB Chilusa ($11.00)
BB Cicor69 ($11.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :kc: :js:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, cola004 raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: :jd: :2c: :3d: ($2.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, cola004 bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: :4s: ($6.55, 2 players)
Hero checks, cola004 goes all-in $6.65, Hero calls $6.65

River: :ac: ($19.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $19.85
Hero shows: :kc: :js:
cola004 shows: :ah: :ad:

cola004 wins $18.90 ( won +$9.05 )
Hero lost -$9.85


Heres this month so far to show the swings
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/662/may182009.jpg

winners were
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG nakh1 ($13.90)
UTG+1 janiboi88 ($10.00)
CO Hero ($12.65)
BTN vignigga ($11.65)
SB Chilusa ($8.05)
BB manilla01 ($2.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :jd: :ks:
nakh1 raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, manilla01 calls $0.10

Flop: :qh: :ts: :8h: ($0.65, 3 players)
manilla01 goes all-in $1.80, nakh1 calls $1.80, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: :tc: ($6.05, 3 players)
nakh1 checks, Hero checks

River: :9d: ($6.05, 3 players)
nakh1 bets $2.90, Hero goes all-in $10.65, nakh1 calls $7.75

Final Pot: $27.35
manilla01 shows: :qd: :9c:
nakh1 shows: :jh: :ad:
Hero shows: :jd: :ks:

Hero wins $26 ( won +$13.35 )
manilla01 lost -$2
nakh1 lost -$12.65


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Chilusa ($7.40)
UTG+1 skay13 ($2.80)
CO nakh1 ($9.70)
BTN Kra3v ($6.65)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB vignigga ($16.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :kd: :kc:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, vignigga calls $0.30

Flop: :2d: :jc: :8c: ($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, vignigga calls $0.80

Turn: :qd: ($2.40, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $8.80, vignigga calls $8.80

River: :7d: ($20, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20
Hero shows: :kd: :kc:
vignigga shows: :ac: :qh:

Hero wins $19.05 ( won +$9.05 )
vignigga lost -$10


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
3 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Hero ($26.00)
SB vignigga ($11.55)
BB Chilusa ($8.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 3 players) Hero is BTN :qh: :ah:
Hero raises to $0.40, vignigga folds, Chilusa calls $0.30

Flop: :kh: :5h: :qc: ($0.85, 2 players)
Chilusa checks, Hero bets $0.70, Chilusa raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: :qs: ($5.25, 2 players)
Chilusa bets $3, Hero raises to $12.80, Chilusa goes all-in $2.65

River: :js: ($23.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $16.55
Chilusa shows: :jc: :kc:
Hero shows: :qh: :ah:

Hero wins $22.90 ( won +$7.50 )
Chilusa lost -$8.25


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Lescelleur ($6.15)
CO bashagain ($8.70)
BTN Hero ($13.30)
SB asertivo ($11.05)
BB CoHorseman ($5.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN :kc: :kh:
Lescelleur raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Lescelleur calls $0.80

Flop: :5d: :js: :9s: ($2.55, 2 players)
Lescelleur goes all-in $4.95, Hero calls $4.95

Turn: :7h: ($12.45, 2 players)

River: :ts: ($12.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $12.45
Lescelleur shows: :qd: :ah:
Hero shows: :kc: :kh:

Hero wins $11.85 ( won +$5.70 )
Lescelleur lost -$6.15


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG POWRERTRIP ($3.40)
CO TZ2009 ($16.00)
BTN dsrowqf ($10.15)
SB Hero ($12.95)
BB Doberman06 ($5.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB :kc: :ks:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Doberman06 calls $0.30

Flop: :2c: :8s: :7c: ($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Doberman06 calls $0.80

Turn: :9d: ($2.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, Doberman06 goes all-in $4.25

River: :qs: ($11.85, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.90
Hero shows: :kc: :ks:
Doberman06 shows: :th: :9h:

Hero wins $11.35 ( won +$4.95 )
Doberman06 lost -$5.45

684 hands for a loss of $11.10 to leave bankroll on $344.83 and 606 fpps. Frustrating night really, was up $20 at one stage and then just kept running into sets to put me down nearly 2BI at one stage and i finished the session off with a 1/2 buyin stacking with an overpair (99) to recover slightly.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG vlavoj ($10.00)
UTG+1 notjunior ($4.10)
CO hightower880 ($9.60)
BTN Hero ($15.15)
SB camelsj ($7.25)
BB andriallstar ($10.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :ad: :9h:
1 fold, notjunior calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, camelsj calls $0.25, andriallstar calls $0.20, notjunior calls $0.20

Flop: :3d: :9s: :8d: ($1.20, 4 players)
camelsj checks, andriallstar checks, notjunior bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, camelsj calls $0.50, andriallstar folds

Turn: :9c: ($2.70, 3 players)
camelsj checks, notjunior bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, camelsj calls $1.30

River: :2c: ($6.60, 3 players)
camelsj checks, notjunior checks, Hero bets $6.20, camelsj goes all-in $5.15, notjunior folds

Final Pot: $16.90
Hero shows: :ad: :9h:
camelsj shows: :3h: :3s:

Hero wins $1.05 ( lost -$7.25 )
camelsj wins $16.10 ( won +$8.85 )
notjunior lost -$2.10
andriallstar lost -$0.30



$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG lansdowne10 ($7.40)
CO Rocket_921 ($10.00)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB hi-tekk1 ($3.15)
BB civicjordan ($5.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN :9s: :kc:
lansdowne10 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, civicjordan calls $0.30, lansdowne10 calls $0.30

Flop: :4h: :9c: :6h: ($1.25, 3 players)
civicjordan checks, lansdowne10 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, civicjordan folds, lansdowne10 raises to $1.10, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: :js: ($3.45, 2 players)
lansdowne10 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: :jd: ($5.45, 2 players)
lansdowne10 bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

Final Pot: $8.85
Hero shows: :9s: :kc:
lansdowne10 shows: :4d: :4c:

lansdowne10 wins $8.45 ( won +$4.25 )
Hero lost -$4.20
civicjordan lost -$0.40



should have save myself $1.70 on the river here

PokerStars Game #28354103336: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/05/19 0:15:42 WET [2009/05/18 19:15:42 ET]
Table 'Priska III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: vlavoj ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 2: notjunior ($3.05 in chips)
Seat 3: pabbless ($7.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Keith_MM ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 5: camelsj ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 6: tonypoker883 ($7.80 in chips)
vlavoj: posts small blind $0.05
notjunior: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Keith_MM [Ah Th]
pabbless: calls $0.10
Keith_MM: raises $0.30 to $0.40
camelsj: folds
tonypoker883: calls $0.40
vlavoj: folds
notjunior: folds
pabbless: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [5s Ad 4c]
pabbless: checks
Keith_MM: bets $1
tonypoker883: folds
pabbless: calls $1
*** TURN *** [5s Ad 4c] [6s]
pabbless: checks
Keith_MM: checks
*** RIVER *** [5s Ad 4c 6s] [2d]
pabbless: bets $1.70
Keith_MM: calls $1.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pabbless: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
Keith_MM: mucks hand
pabbless collected $6.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.75 | Rake $0.30
Board [5s Ad 4c 6s 2d]
Seat 1: vlavoj (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: notjunior (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pabbless showed [4h 4s] and won ($6.45) with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 4: Keith_MM mucked [Ah Th]
Seat 5: camelsj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tonypoker883 (button) folded on the Flop

pretty uneventful session last night. 600 hands and BR finished at $348.38 and 619 fpps.Was up 12$ at one stage and it just dwindled away.

wednesday night i was watching "wonderland" play for an hour or so in a sweat session.Interesting to see where he was folding and I'd have been raising.
Another Interesting thing was seeing the fpp balance that he had made this month compared to me since he plays with 6$ (?) buyin and I'm buying in for the full $10.Where I have blasted through the UK's silver star promotion this month Andy's still got a way to go .....and he wasn't even aware of it. This might also be a style issue with me probably being a more aggressive and building a pot leading to my very swingy graph.
Played a short session after the sweat and finished up $3 ish and last night couldn't hit a draw. managed to recover at the end of the session to a BR of 346.23 and 643 fpps

Hey KEEF, how are them cows?

aye, i been losing so bad lately that i aint doing full stack cozi it will be just more to lose rather than more to win.

I lost the munniez you saw me make in two hands the following session.

Anywho... in summary... fold more. I've been saying this a lot lately but it's a way overlooked concept in our stake. For some reason i'm still able to piss stacks away when i'm in good but soon that poker aids will heal up and i'll get back into realistic spots where i'm not flipping 9 tails and one heads out of ten flips *rolls eyes*.

Anyway... love to fold. Someone once said that poker is a game in which you can make money by folding. That always stuck in my head. Your button range is wide, and i tried that thinking: well, i'm in position wtf?! but we shouldn't take it for granted that just because they're in the blinds they have a) weaker hands and b) will just check fold.

Or let's say you do open up. The whole cbet thing is interesting. Very often fish will check-call so don't expect to take it down with air. I very often get called two out of three streets with bot pair when i've hit air. So i thought, you know what, fuck all that kind of play. I just want some low variance, tight, semi-predictable play.

So go ahead and polarize your ranges, they won't catch on. I'm talking leave medium suited connectors in late position, weak kings and weak aces on the button. What are you gonna do, bet your A8 when an A hits? these people are flatting with AA preflop.

Anywho, that's my two cents. I'm hardly winning but i never wanted those swings you're getting and have deliberately created a style that is working to avoid that. Still swingy but not nearly as much.

Lemme know what you think and if you try it out :)

ok 10k hands stats time at 10NL.
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5...nl10khands.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-05-22

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http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9...ndresults1.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9...andresults.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4...eranalysis.jpg

i havnt played 6max for so long, and even when I used to play it I was only at 10NL, but 29/18 seems pretty horrid imo. tighten up for a start, and then stop limping/calling so much pre.

obviously my main reason for concern is the button results. I think I'm opening far too wide a range and its getting me into spew I was discussing this with Andy the other night. Some ofthe other results were slightly surprising. I have said about overvaluing overpairs when in reality they are a nice earner.
Any comments will be greatly appreciated to help me sort out the crap that I've been doing.

i hope i'm not going to sound like an arsehole in this post...

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Keith_MM

ok 10k hands stats time at 10NL

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ok, at micro-6-max you want to be running 10ptBB/100. Which would be 20 buyins. So obviously there are some leaks to find.
Post the general (default) report "by stakes" from HEM. Make sure it includes 3-bet, fold to 3-bet, c-bet, fold to c-bet.

Graph - it's swingy as hell. But small-ish sample size. You probably need to both fold (you lose a bunch of biggish pots) and bet (non-showdown line) more post-flop.

Position stats
A comment. It's better to start out as a nit and slowly expand your range to become a respectable LAG. As an example, Robb is still a crazy-nit 16-12 type and winning at stakes up to 100nl. You can crush micros by tight pre-flop play. I'm trying to learn a 23-21 style at micro-6-max, but that's cos I am not using that to build my roll and I have other motives re my main games that wouldn't really apply if i was starting out. I think pre-flop play is likely your biggest leak, to run as loose=passive as you pre-flop and still turn a profit is testament to your post-flop play not sucking arse and probably being pretty good for the stakes you play. Big post-flop leak seems to be showing down too often, but this may simply indicate good small-pot zero post-flop pot contribution with weak hands. But you may be able to win these pots with c=bets? dunno.

sb = 44% vpip from sb is spew. Even in limped pots you should be folding T7o cos how are you going to make money from that out of position? you aren't. I also think you're stealing too much when folded to.
bb = Stop cold calling a weak range out of position. PFR and 3-bet are both good. Just abandon the crap.
EP = too loose. Try pocket pairs, AJs+, KQs only for a while. Raising all of them. I think that's about 9%. So what else is in your ep range? inappropriate stuff, that's what.
Middle = better, but still a little too loose.
Cut-off = I like this. Maybe cold-call a little less.
Button = wow, that's too loose. Cold-call heaps less, narrow your steal range to maybe 35%. I note that any ace, any king, any pair, broadways, + ANY SUITED matches closely your steal range. Equals asking for trouble. 3-bet looks good.

Ok, that's a lot of hands.
It does show me that you're cold-calling crap like ATo though. And stealing with J2o. And not pot-controlling when you should (KT hand). And three streets of calling down with K-high turning into king kick on quads??? K9 as tp isn't a hand to raise-call flop, call turn, call river with.
actually, your flop-play may need some work after all.

I can't provide much input on the hand grouping and river made hand value windows - they tell a lot less than people think.

player analysis
what do you think that very low fold to river c-bet is telling you? Filter on "called river bet/raise" and feel mortified.

you'll be at 25nl soon enough. Best to sort your game out sooner rather than later!!!

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Originally Posted by daven

i hope i'm not going to sound like an arsehole in this post...

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absolutely not .....I need the criticism and help

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Originally Posted by Keith_MM

ok 10k hands stats time at 10NL

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ok, at micro-6-max you want to be running 10ptBB/100. Which would be 20 buyins. So obviously there are some leaks to find.
Post the general (default) report "by stakes" from HEM. Make sure it includes 3-bet, fold to 3-bet, c-bet, fold to c-bet.

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Graph - it's swingy as hell. But small-ish sample size. You probably need to both fold (you lose a bunch of biggish pots) and bet (non-showdown line) more post-flop.

Position stats
A comment. It's better to start out as a nit and slowly expand your range to become a respectable LAG. As an example, Robb is still a crazy-nit 16-12 type and winning at stakes up to 100nl. You can crush micros by tight pre-flop play. I'm trying to learn a 23-21 style at micro-6-max, but that's cos I am not using that to build my roll and I have other motives re my main games that wouldn't really apply if i was starting out. I think pre-flop play is likely your biggest leak, to run as loose=passive as you pre-flop and still turn a profit is testament to your post-flop play not sucking arse and probably being pretty good for the stakes you play. Big post-flop leak seems to be showing down too often, but this may simply indicate good small-pot zero post-flop pot contribution with weak hands. But you may be able to win these pots with c=bets? dunno.

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I initially started out following Robs first 5000 hand guide at 5NL as I wasn't rolled for 10NL and was switching from freerolls to cash games.I found that I just wasn't playing any hands at 5NL as it was always being raisedand reraised and I loosened up (too far I know ) and the style got me through 5NL. It runs into major problems at 10NL though. Generally I'm ok against the regular types but the fish either kill me or i clean up with them ....hence the swingy graph. Cbettng des take down an awul lot of pots but they tend to be smaller pots , when it doesnt I seem to get into bloated pots that go to showdown , and if I've hit I seem to be getting a fair amount of money into the pot.Then getting sucked out on by spurious cards that the regs wouldnt be playing in the first place.

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sb = 44% vpip from sb is spew. Even in limped pots you should be folding T7o cos how are you going to make money from that out of position? you aren't. I also think you're stealing too much when folded to.
bb = Stop cold calling a weak range out of position. PFR and 3-bet are both good. Just abandon the crap.
EP = too loose. Try pocket pairs, AJs+, KQs only for a while. Raising all of them. I think that's about 9%. So what else is in your ep range? inappropriate stuff, that's what.
Middle = better, but still a little too loose.
Cut-off = I like this. Maybe cold-call a little less.
Button = wow, that's too loose. Cold-call heaps less, narrow your steal range to maybe 35%. I note that any ace, any king, any pair, broadways, + ANY SUITED matches closely your steal range. Equals asking for trouble. 3-bet looks good.

Ok, that's a lot of hands.
It does show me that you're cold-calling crap like ATo though. And stealing with J2o. And not pot-controlling when you should (KT hand). And three streets of calling down with K-high turning into king kick on quads??? K9 as tp isn't a hand to raise-call flop, call turn, call river with.
actually, your flop-play may need some work after all.

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If its folded to me CO and later i've been raising any two cardsand folding the crap to a reraise. 5NL the reraises were infrewuent , 10NL they are all over the place.Essentially I've got to tigthen up earlier and almost use same range in CO on the button.

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I can't provide much input on the hand grouping and river made hand value windows - they tell a lot less than people think.

player analysis
what do you think that very low fold to river c-bet is telling you? Filter on "called river bet/raise" and feel mortified.

you'll be at 25nl soon enough. Best to sort your game out sooner rather than later!!!

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Essentially that I turn into a bit of a station by the river. Basically by the time it gets thatere I'm usually feeling happy with my hand and willing to stack off with it .......unfortunately thats what i do too often.Can't find how to do the filter you suggest , only just bought HEM and still finding my way round it. With the averages that it quotes , are they the averages in my database or are they standard averages observed across millions of datamined hands?.
And thanks for the help and suggestions.

I suggest fold to 3bets more. Calling a 3bet 50% of the time is just pure spew. My own fold to 3bet stat is 70% for 10nl (I play FR tho :/). But still, you need to start 4betting or folding to those. Calling just sucks, especially if you are OOP. You give away all initiative. You are pretty much forced to check/fold when you miss, and thats just teh gay lol.

you're way too loose in the SB and UTG/UTG+1

You are open limping small pkt pairs or something utg?

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Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

You are open limping small pkt pairs or something utg?

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'd like to say butjust been digging through the UTG hands in my database and theres some suited connectors ,A9o,J9o,QJo,A7s,A5o,KTs hands in there as well

Good luck with your grind. I'll be posting my first 10k myself soon and I think we both have similar leaks (but good potential) in our game. I'll definitely keep an eye on your thread. Good luck!

bit of a quick update to say that there is no update . Been working long days and been virtually a case of getting home and off to bed before 6am (or earlier) start the next day.
This isn't to say that I'm not thinking about my game though, I'm thinking about swapping back to a trying a combination of Robbs first 100 hands again and Rentons preflop guide.I've also got to be a lot more decisive about when to leave a bad table. I've blown too much money having a station /maniac on my left. If I havent got some nitty players on my left I end up playing far too many pots OOP, blind stealing becomes like russian roulette.
The other thing i'm debating in my head is whether using this much tighter starting strategy I would be better to switch to full ring as well , since so many guys seem to do well at it or to carry on with 6max.

five tables is plenty to play fold 'em @ 6max.

I play 4 and am playing like 18% of hands. It's reasonably paced. Sometimes pop open a 5th if i'm card dead.

just learn to love throwing away your hands when you have crap, sometimes that crap inclides TPTK. Today i raised with AA and got two callers while in pos. Flop was like 9TJ, it went check check and i bet full pot, got raised like 2.5x and folded. Two weeks ago i'd have probably been shoving.

You'll watch that graph AT LEAST flatten out.

time for an update. Hardly played any hands recently simply due to long hours at work that I mentioned at the start of this OP. Knew it was coming hence the concentration on putting hands in at the start of the month.
played 415 hands on sat 31st and ended down a buy in. Mainly due to lots of small pots that hit diddly squat.
Last night was a roller coaster car crash.was up 23$ after 250 hands and finished up down 18$. This left the bankroll at $315.63 and fpps at 693.5
Since I hit silverstar last month using the UK promotion the fpps are racking up 50% faster now , and the store now has instant cash credits available 16$ for 1000fpps and 8 $ for 500 fpps so the initial aim is to get that 16$ bonus by the end of the month.
back to last nights though these were the big hands.

This hand the villain had gone all in every hand for his three hands and had already lost a buyin.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.40)
UTG+1 Ste2fbXL ($12.80)
CO Hodorkovski ($7.35)
BTN elcapitan29 ($6.75)
SB mumu0_10 ($19.00)
BB L0lsker ($13.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG :9c: :9s:
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, elcapitan29 goes all-in $6.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.35

Flop: :jh: :ts: :2h: ($13.65, 2 players)

Turn: :8c: ($13.65, 2 players)

River: :jd: ($13.65, 2 players)

Final Pot: $13.65
Hero shows: :9c: :9s:
elcapitan29 shows: :7s: :6c:

Hero wins $13 ( won +$6.25 )
elcapitan29 lost -$6.75


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villains second hand.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG jucanelas ($10.55)
CO terush142 ($10.00)
BTN yapa6eu ($10.00)
SB Hero ($16.25)
BB Taylan69 ($9.30)
[terush142 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 5 players) Hero is SB :as: :qd:
1 fold, terush142 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: :ac: :th: :9h: ($0.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, terush142 bets $0.70, Hero raises to $1.80, terush142 calls $1.10

Turn: :3d: ($4.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, terush142 goes all-in $7.80, Hero calls $5.10

River: :9s: ($20.10, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.10
Hero shows: :as: :qd:
terush142 shows: :6s: :td:

Hero wins $19.15 ( won +$9.15 )
terush142 lost -$10


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and then it started
villain was 86/25/2.4 8.3 3bet%

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($10.00)
UTG+1 Hero ($21.90)
CO D'wilius ($9.45)
BTN mykel99945 ($10.30)
SB casiopayo ($8.95)
BB Chanel29 ($9.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :ah: :ad:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, casiopayo calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: :5s: :7c: :4s: ($0.90, 2 players)
casiopayo bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1, casiopayo calls $0.70

Turn: :4d: ($2.90, 2 players)
casiopayo checks, Hero bets $9.30, casiopayo goes all-in $7.55

River: :8s: ($19.75, 2 players)

Final Pot: $18
Hero shows: :ah: :ad:
casiopayo shows: :ac: :4h:

Hero wins $1.75 ( lost -$8.95 )
casiopayo wins $17.15 ( won +$8.20 )

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villain was 29/5/1.2 over 76 hands.
Having showed strength pre ....it ended up trying to bluff him off his hand and kicking myself.


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG D'wilius ($9.55)
UTG+1 mykel99945 ($19.30)
CO casiopayo ($10.35)
BTN Chanel29 ($9.80)
SB Deathfart42 ($12.10)
BB Hero ($12.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :ks: :ad:
1 fold, mykel99945 raises to $0.40, casiopayo calls $0.40, Chanel29 calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.40, mykel99945 calls $1, casiopayo folds, Chanel29 calls $1

Flop: :9d: :js: :7c: ($4.65, 3 players)
Hero bets $2.40, mykel99945 folds, Chanel29 calls $2.40

Turn: :3s: ($9.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $4.20, Chanel29 goes all-in $6, Hero calls $1.80

River: :6h: ($21.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.45
Hero shows: :ks: :ad:
Chanel29 shows: :7d: :td:

Chanel29 wins $20.40 ( won +$10.60 )
Hero lost -$9.80
mykel99945 lost -$1.40
casiopayo lost -$0.40

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villain was 13/11/1.5. 13% 3bet%

was thinking that he was probably on JJ+ ,AK and discounted AA KK and AKsince I and the board had so many blockers.Coupled with his high 3bet% which I thought meant he probably would have had a smaller pocket pair as he might have 4bet a premium PP.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($11.30)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN mykel99945 ($17.15)
SB casiopayo ($11.60)
BB Chanel29 ($20.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :as: :ac:
Deathfart42 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, 3 folds, Deathfart42 calls $1

Flop: :kh: :ks: :4c: ($2.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero bets $2, Deathfart42 calls $2

Turn: :6d: ($6.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero goes all-in $6.60, Deathfart42 calls $6.60

River: :tc: ($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
Deathfart42 shows: :kd: :ad:
Hero shows: :as: :ac:

Deathfart42 wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

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same villain as the AK hand

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Deathfart42 ($11.30)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN mykel99945 ($17.15)
SB casiopayo ($11.60)
BB Chanel29 ($20.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :as: :ac:
Deathfart42 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, 3 folds, Deathfart42 calls $1

Flop: :kh: :ks: :4c: ($2.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero bets $2, Deathfart42 calls $2

Turn: :6d: ($6.95, 2 players)
Deathfart42 checks, Hero goes all-in $6.60, Deathfart42 calls $6.60

River: :tc: ($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
Deathfart42 shows: :kd: :ad:
Hero shows: :as: :ac:

Deathfart42 wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

hey dude!

well, glad you're back, sorry you're having a rough time though. Suckage.

ok, remember my fold motto? for the AK hand, betting into 2 players with such a large bet is gambling unless maybe you had a decent size PP such as at least 88 but TT, QQ, then AJ. I don't think i'm cbetting anything else here (infact i might even c/r 99, JJ, 77 here).

Don't get wed do those 3bet hands that miss. And infact, pre flop, it really sucks but if you 3bet AK against 3 people, you may well not get it headsup. It's like that whether i just call with the AK here coz of how loose people are going to be and how they're not folding. Sucks balls but if you did hit, you'd probably be way ahead anyway and would take them by surprise. That said, that prick should not have called at any point during the whole ordeal. Those hands piss me off, coz normally here he has to put QQ, KK, AA in your range.

AA hand. If i get AA and it's a 3bet pot and KK hits the board, i will be cbetting. But look, by the turn it's complete rainbow, and barely connecting at all, so you're not getting called by worse, so never shove here, he's only calling with a K which is always in a villain's range here somewhere. Infact, you HAVE to put a K in his calling range once you get to the turn. So i would pot control and get to showdown cheaply. These guys LOVE to call with any A K or Q.

Remember how these big all-in pots are rarely a fight over who has the best kicker in a top pair situation. They've usually hit 2 pair or a set. So when you get AA just realise that it is only a pair, if that board looks like it hit your opponent hard and he's betting like it hit him hard, be prepared to toss them away. Note: use one's own instincts here.

This advice is verging on the nit style but i swear you need it to survive 10nl. It's not 5 where they don't have it. Some exceptions as you've shown but like, you knew he was a spew tard and they are the exceptions.

Best of luck, let me sweat you once you get back into regular game.

thanks Andy, milking this weekend so only got a short session in last night, probably about 150 hands. But what a heater, Bankroll is now back up to $356.28 and 716 fpps. I'll post the hands tonight but it was same sort of situations as last night , just the AA 's held up.
Got into an interesting situation last night with AA , i think i was BB, UTG raised to $0.40 and there were 3or 4 callers. I 3bet it up to $2 and they all folded. Question is ....what should I have 3 bet? too small and would end up with too many callers and then pricing in even more callers and multiway less chance of the AA standing up , too big and they all fold , not sure if the 2$ ish on the table was the best option after all. Will dig the hand out tonight as well and stick it in the beginners circle for opinions.

I think that's not too bad. I mean think about it, you may get two callers taking your equity down, may lose a buy-in. As it stood you took down a reasonable pot pre flop and then moved on. No biggy.

It is funny though, i think about $1.40 is usually fine but if you sense that you're going to called by more than one caller, better just take it down there with the $2 and IF you get one idiot who calls, then you're in a nice bloated pot with AA.

each situation will be quite different. Lately most of my AA and KK have been folded to me, so that sucks in a different way. Quick tip though, you get AK and 3bet a total unknown and he calls. If you want to play tight, just chill out post flop until you know his game. Maybe even check it down if you miss. Thing is, in a 3bet pot, if you cbet good with air, it's not long before you're somewhat pot committed. Just cool off and wait for a better spot. Trust me, all these spots add up.

ok got the sizes wrong but postedthe AA 3bet hand in BC

as for last nights hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MistaWilson ($10.75)
UTG+1 AArTisTT ($15.20)
CO bigstealer ($6.65)
BTN boy2minhz ($7.20)
SB Hero ($29.55)
BB jucanelas ($10.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :as: :ac:
MistaWilson calls $0.10, 1 fold, bigstealer calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MistaWilson calls $0.40, bigstealer calls $0.40

Flop: :6c: :kd: :5h: ($1.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $1.30, MistaWilson calls $1.30, bigstealer folds

Turn: :5d: ($4.20, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.80, MistaWilson calls $3.80

River: :4s: ($11.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, MistaWilson goes all-in $5.15

Final Pot: $22.10
Hero shows: :as: :ac:
MistaWilson shows: :kh: :qh:

Hero wins $21.90 ( won +$10.30 )
MistaWilson lost -$10.75
bigstealer lost -$0.50
-------------------------------------------------------------$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Ouhi ($5.75)
UTG+1 elwapo07 ($11.35)
CO Hero ($12.35)
BTN zu san li ($6.60)
SB gr2player ($10.95)
BB upsista ($9.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :qh: :qs:
1 fold, elwapo07 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, gr2player calls $0.45, 1 fold, elwapo07 folds

Flop: :kc: :6c: :qc: ($1.20, 2 players)
gr2player bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.20, gr2player calls $0.60

Turn: :jh: ($3.60, 2 players)
gr2player checks, Hero bets $1.70, gr2player calls $1.70

River: :ks: ($7, 2 players)
gr2player checks, Hero bets $6.30, gr2player calls $6.30

Final Pot: $19.60
gr2player shows: :kh: :ac:
Hero shows: :qh: :qs:

Hero wins $18.65 ( won +$8.95 )
gr2player lost -$9.70
elwapo07 lost -$0.10
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bigstealer ($4.55)
CO 7Doyley7 ($9.85)
BTN Hero ($17.55)
SB Jannah0515 ($9.30)
BB QLB1976 ($7.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BTN :ac: :ah:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Jannah0515 calls $0.35, QLB1976 raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.50, Jannah0515 folds, QLB1976 goes all-in $7.60, Hero calls $5.10

Flop: :qs: :ad: :qc: ($15.60, 2 players)

Turn: :ts: ($15.60, 2 players)

River: :7c: ($15.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $15.60
Hero shows: :ac: :ah:
QLB1976 shows: :kc: :kd:

Hero wins $14.85 ( won +$7.25 )
Jannah0515 lost -$0.40
QLB1976 lost -$7.60
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ugly_1963 ($9.80)
UTG+1 QLB1976 ($8.30)
CO bigstealer ($5.60)
BTN 7Doyley7 ($10.00)
SB Hero ($10.00)
BB gutsfulofpok ($5.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :ah: :kd:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, gutsfulofpok calls $0.30

Flop: :6s: :8c: :kc: ($0.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, gutsfulofpok raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $5.70, gutsfulofpok goes all-in $3.60

Turn: :5d: ($11.50, 2 players)

River: :4h: ($11.50, 2 players)

Final Pot: $10.80
Hero shows: :ah: :kd:
gutsfulofpok shows: :ad: :8h:

Hero wins $11 ( won +$4.90 )
gutsfulofpok lost -$5.40
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MistaWilson ($11.70)
CO AArTisTT ($15.50)
BTN bigstealer ($5.75)
SB Boy8419 ($4.70)
BB Hero ($25.50)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :kh: :ah:
2 folds, bigstealer raises to $0.30, Boy8419 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, bigstealer folds, Boy8419 calls $1

Flop: :4h: :6d: :2c: ($3.30, 2 players)
Boy8419 goes all-in $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

Turn: :qc: ($9.70, 2 players)

River: :kd: ($9.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $9.70
Boy8419 shows: :ad: :6h:
Hero shows: :kh: :ah:

Hero wins $9.25 ( won +$4.55 )
Boy8419 lost -$4.70
bigstealer lost -$0.30
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG upsista ($10.00)
UTG+1 trackstar800 ($20.05)
CO elwapo07 ($15.35)
BTN Hero ($21.60)
SB zu san li ($9.80)
BB Virix ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :qs: :3s:
2 folds, elwapo07 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, zu san li calls $0.35, 1 fold, elwapo07 calls $0.30

Flop: :3h: :qc: :tc: ($1.30, 3 players)
zu san li bets $0.40, elwapo07 calls $0.40, Hero raises to $3.60, zu san li calls $3.20, elwapo07 folds

Turn: :kh: ($8.90, 2 players)
zu san li checks, Hero bets $10.60, zu san li folds

Final Pot: $8.90

Hero wins $19.10 ( won +$4.50 )
elwapo07 lost -$0.80
zu san li lost -$4

some nice good hands there, thankfully the fish are stacking off light. Always nice. I'm surprised these days how seldom that happens. In my sesh tonight, i stacked one person when i was miles behind, a half stack, then one full on full stack.... in 750 hands!

two things. One... don't be calling that flop with the missed AK, but i think you already know that. Although serves the fucker right for calling a 3bet with CRAP. Ouw there's nothing more satisfying. And two, Q3s from the button, after one limper? i might do this but i wouldn't want to tell my friends i did it. Tight tight tight.

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Originally Posted by wonderland

And two, Q3s from the button, after one limper? i might do this but i wouldn't want to tell my friends i did it. Tight tight tight.

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Theres no way that I ever steal the blinds if they are there for the nicking .... honest .. :lol:

last night was 174 card dead hands for a profit of $1.75 giving a roll of $358.03 and 723.5 fpps. A total of 833 hands so far this month and the deliberate intention to tighten up is appearing ......maybe not enough though....overall running at 25/18.4 with 4% 3bet%. Last month was 29.1/18.1 2.8% 3bet% over 11635 hands.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by wonderland

And two, Q3s from the button, after one limper? i might do this but i wouldn't want to tell my friends i did it. Tight tight tight.

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Theres no way that I ever steal the blinds if they are there for the nicking .... honest .. :lol:

last night was 174 card dead hands for a profit of $1.75 giving a roll of $358.03 and 723.5 fpps. A total of 833 hands so far this month and the deliberate intention to tighten up is appearing ......maybe not enough though....overall running at 25/18.4 with 4% 3bet%. Last month was 29.1/18.1 2.8% 3bet% over 11635 hands.

i think it's like, the more advanced you are, the wider your range is allowed to be because you know how to play those hands. I guess the way i see it is you have to earn the right to play a wider range. Until then, i feel it should be below 20% for sure.

I'm running around 18/14 of late. I have to. But very recently have started to sneak in the odd 89s or 9Ts from early positions.

Learn to enjoy not being in pots. Enjoy folding. Drop the cards like they're on fire. Yeuch! 56o from the button against a 40vp and a 55vp. Bin it, they're calling with any A, K or Q.

Today i started playing... 20 hands in i'm down a fuckin buy-in, almost a THOUSAND hands later i claw my way up to break even through good plays. Felt rather proud of myself. Been 5 tabling lately too. Could do with a nice heater but of late my defensive game has been solid so am hardly losing. This is what it is to tighten up, get away from the crap so the boat doesn't sink! Then you can start paddling.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9582/june08graph.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-06-07

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3900/jun08pos.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-06-07

up $16.75 tonight over 298 hands. Stats show that I've tightened up a lot in early positions , but still wide range in position and stealing like crazy.

Could you do me a favour and post a graph with the following spec:

all 10nl
JUST winnings
800px wide so i can take it all in

want to see if those swings are converging. If you find this wide range is working then fine, but let's try and establish that.

all 10NL 6 max graph for andy
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7184/jun0810nl.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-06-08

fack ME... that literally looks like bart simpson's head. Look at that big inverted spike at about 11k!

must have been a sudden rush of AA getting wins and losses!

i've had a ROUUUUGH few days man. I'm up but MAN the effort. Played 2.5k hands 5-6 tabling and each time plummetted initially, only to then spend 3 hours craaawling back up. Started to need my own advice, was tilting proper, you know when you're shaking, foot keeps tapping, eyes darting, really hot. So was opening a wider range, just like FOR THE LOVE OF GOD can i HIT something!?

Tried some new techniques tonight to SHIT effect. See a paired board and call their cbet, then raise the turn repping the set. DIDN'T WORK! lost about 20bb.

Anyways, this is your op not mine... i should see you play and compare notes. My thing lately has been disguising my good hands, i used to just try to get the money in. Now i check... think about it... call... check (please bet, please bet), then just shove. Often the shove looks like a bluff or something. Often they don't call but when they do it's +buy-in time. So maybe try that out. I'm checking all over the place these days coz no fucker is calling my bets... oh unless i'm bluffing! then they LOVE to call with bot pair. F'sake.

I shall do my graph in my op soon. Pop by.

well last night was an interesting nights poker . Played in a Talksport( uk radio station) freeroll on pacific for a seat in a final , winner of which gets to play in the poker ashes.476 ish enties and had my AA cracked early on by 33 by bloke who rivered a flush.Top 10 qualify for a seat in the final. Managed to recover and finally took 3rd.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7916/talksport.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-06-09

when i was getting to the last couple of tables I opened up some cash tables ( telly progs had finished).very first hand I'm dealt

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG cooper1502 ($7.15)
UTG+1 DSM4CK ($9.35)
CO tee_rockz ($14.50)
BTN manielm ($8.35)
SB zkf75 ($8.40)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :ah: :ad:
cooper1502 calls $0.10, 1 fold, tee_rockz calls $0.10, manielm calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, cooper1502 calls $0.50, tee_rockz folds, manielm folds

Flop: :8s: :4c: :8h: ($1.45, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, cooper1502 raises to $3, Hero raises to $7, cooper1502 goes all-in $3.55

Turn: :4h: ($15, 2 players)

River: :7h: ($15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $14.55
Hero shows: :ah: :ad:
cooper1502 shows: :9c: :8c:

Hero wins $0.45 ( lost -$7.15 )
cooper1502 wins $13.85 ( won +$6.70 )
manielm lost -$0.10
tee_rockz lost -$0.10


absolutely delighted by that .NOT.

this was an interesting situation

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ol'landski ($0.95)
UTG+1 Hero ($13.75)
CO Floorshooter ($5.70)
BTN Willyhit ($6.90)
SB mudslinger69 ($8.15)
BB Truelies_PS ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 :th: :ts:
ol'landski calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Willyhit raises to $1.50, 2 folds, ol'landski goes all-in $0.85, Hero calls $1

Flop: :3c: :7d: :4d: ($4.10, 3 players)
Hero checks, Willyhit bets $1.90, Hero raises to $7.10, Willyhit says "how can i fold jacks?", Willyhit folds

Turn: :5d: ($13.10, 2 players)

River: :td: ($13.10, 2 players)
Willyhit says "lmfao"

Final Pot: $7.90
ol'landski shows: :kd: :3d:
Hero shows: :th: :ts:

ol'landski wins $2.85 ( won +$1.90 )
Hero wins $9.90 ( won +$1.30 )
Willyhit lost -$3.40


willyhit really tilted when he saw what i had
Keith_MM said, "good job you did lol"
Willyhit said, "i would have double thru from you"
ol'landski said, "lol"
Keith_MM said, "should have called then lol"
Willyhit said, "i didnt figure you for an idiot"
Willyhit said, "so youre play was calculated and you knew you had the best hand on the flop lol"
Willyhit said, "dont make me laugh"

ol'landski said, "genius"
ol'landski said, "oppsa"
Willyhit said, "i have an overpair i must be good so ill check raise lol"
Willyhit said, "anyways good for you just hope you stick around and give me chance to get lucky"
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big winner was
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG urbangerm ($11.80)
UTG+1 mykel99945 ($10.15)
CO bashagain ($11.95)
BTN Hero ($17.65)
SB diobolique1 ($15.20)
BB BIGRODD ($6.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :8h: :ah:
1 fold, mykel99945 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BIGRODD calls $0.30

Flop: :6s: :8s: :8d: ($1.25, 3 players)
BIGRODD bets $0.70, mykel99945 raises to $2, Hero raises to $5.50, BIGRODD folds, mykel99945 goes all-in $9.75, Hero calls $4.25

Turn: :3c: ($21.45, 2 players)

River: :4d: ($21.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $21.45
mykel99945 shows: :as: :qs:
Hero shows: :8h: :ah:

Hero wins $20.40 ( won +$10.25 )
BIGRODD lost -$1.10
mykel99945 lost -$10.15

overall ....after the bad start managed to recover and get up a buy in before spewing at the end and finishing down a buyin. Shut the table down at that stage.this was a load of spew (well maybe the river call)

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG simonek1323 ($9.50)
UTG+1 mudslinger69 ($8.70)
CO Truelies_PS ($10.00)
BTN JuanAlmighty ($10.00)
SB Hero ($14.95)
BB Floorshooter ($8.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB :9h: :9c:
1 fold, mudslinger69 calls $0.10, Truelies_PS raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold, mudslinger69 calls $0.30

Flop: :8d: :9d: :2c: ($1.30, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.90, mudslinger69 folds, Truelies_PS calls $0.90

Turn: :jh: ($3.10, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, Truelies_PS calls $2.60

River: :qh: ($8.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, Truelies_PS raises to $5.30, Hero calls $2.80

Final Pot: $18.90
Truelies_PS shows: :9s: :ts:
Hero shows: :9h: :9c:

Truelies_PS wins $18 ( won +$8.80 )
Hero lost -$9.20
mudslinger69 lost -$0.40

silver star at 10nl is pretty difficult. but if you can get it...

:shipit:

I managed to get the silver star last month solely because of the UK promotion. The main benefit is that i'm now clocking up fpps 50% faster and should hopefully clear the 1000fpp silver star bonus this month (about 806 at the moment) and then will aim to clock up the extra 500 for the 8$ bonus if not , hopefully it will still be available next month.

Last night , what a heater, and what a massive heater it would have been if my bloody AA's had held up.Actually losing money on them this month.Finished with a 500 ish card session on a bankroll of $403.73 and 809 fpps. Was up 15$ in my first 15 hands which makes a change from the night before all in defeat on the first hand.

ah, keef. Let me know how that cash bonus thing goes, i wouldn't mind cashing my points for that. Otherwise there's just no point in having my silly silver star.

Well done on the wins, how you feeling?

I think from what i've seen you can't let go of pocket over pairs. Specially them aces. Keep showing those ace hands. Like, if there's drawy broadways and you have AA and face massive resistance, they prolly hit their straight/two pair. Maybe just see the turn before shoving. Or slow play 'em. I HATE giving that advice coz it took me ages to stop slow playing aces, but thing is... if you fast play them, you get it 'all in regardless' (often being blind to sets, 2 pairs or straights etc.) or you fold the other guy out and get no value.

played 633 hands yesterday and ended up down $6.50. Was quite happy with my recovery after blowing two stacks right atthe start of the session and being down to $379 at one stage.

these were the culprits
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Urgefan10 ($10.35)
CO Hero ($10.25)
BTN johanve12 ($10.00)
SB Kalanbour ($5.35)
BB Lilly Liu ($9.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is CO :qd: :as:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, johanve12 raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: :8d: :6s: :qs: ($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, johanve12 calls $1.30

Turn: :jh: ($4.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, johanve12 goes all-in $7.60, Hero calls $5.40

River: :3s: ($20.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.15
Hero shows: :qd: :as:
johanve12 shows: :jc: :js:

johanve12 wins $19.20 ( won +$9.20 )
Hero lost -$10

and a couple of hands later to the same villain .


PokerStars Game #29220966402: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/06/10 22:09:07 WET [2009/06/10 17:09:07 ET]
Table 'Harpalyke VII' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Lilly Liu ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Urgefan10 ($10.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Keith_MM ($10.70 in chips)
Seat 4: IamUnwritten ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: johanve12 ($19.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Kalanbour ($4.25 in chips)
Kalanbour: posts small blind $0.05
Lilly Liu: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Keith_MM [Kc Kh]
Urgefan10: folds
Keith_MM: raises $0.30 to $0.40
IamUnwritten: folds
johanve12: calls $0.40
Kalanbour: folds
Lilly Liu: folds
*** FLOP *** [2s 8s 3c]
Keith_MM: bets $0.70
johanve12: calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [2s 8s 3c] [9c]
Keith_MM: bets $2
johanve12: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [2s 8s 3c 9c] [4h]
Keith_MM: bets $6.60
johanve12: raises $10 to $16.60
Keith_MM: calls $1 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($9) returned to johanve12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
johanve12: shows [2d 2c] (three of a kind, Deuces)
Keith_MM: mucks hand
johanve12 collected $20.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.55 | Rake $1.05
Board [2s 8s 3c 9c 4h]
Seat 1: Lilly Liu (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Urgefan10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Keith_MM mucked [Kc Kh]
Seat 4: IamUnwritten folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: johanve12 (button) showed [2d 2c] and won ($20.50) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 6: Kalanbour (small blind) folded before Flop

knuckled down though and ground my way back up helped by :

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG TRLS ($8.00)
UTG+1 josnoda ($5.30)
CO Hero ($15.55)
BTN sam44400 ($13.60)
SB Rienzilla ($16.80)
BB JimMcJohnson ($11.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :jd: :js:
1 fold, josnoda raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, sam44400 raises to $1.20, 2 folds, josnoda calls $1, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: :9d: :9s: :tc: ($3.75, 3 players)
josnoda goes all-in $4.10, Hero calls $4.10, sam44400 calls $4.10

Turn: :td: ($16.05, 3 players)
Hero bets $5.20, sam44400 folds

River: :ts: ($21.25, 2 players)
Rienzilla says "lol please tell me this didnt happen :)", Rienzilla says "hahahahaha!!!!!", Rienzilla says "omg"

Final Pot: $16.05
josnoda shows: :qc: :8c:
Hero shows: :jd: :js:

Hero wins $20.50 ( won +$10 )
josnoda lost -$5.30
sam44400 lost -$5.30

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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG IamUnwritten ($13.35)
UTG+1 Trotsche84 ($4.20)
CO shifty626 ($10.35)
BTN Lilly Liu ($16.20)
SB Urgefan10 ($13.45)
BB Hero ($10.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :9s: :as:
2 folds, shifty626 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: :5s: :qs: :js: ($0.65, 2 players)
Hero checks, shifty626 bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: :kd: ($1.45, 2 players)
Hero checks, shifty626 bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: :ac: ($3.85, 2 players)
Hero checks, shifty626 bets $4.40, Hero goes all-in $8.90, shifty626 folds

Final Pot: $12.65

Hero wins $16.55 ( won +$5.75 )
shifty626 lost -$6.30

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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG amadoglezc ($5.55)
UTG+1 bigeddie555 ($6.35)
CO Sowiet Wings ($11.75)
BTN Hero ($10.45)
SB MProdigy ($8.25)
BB Alancakes ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :kc: :8d:
amadoglezc calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, amadoglezc calls $0.20

Flop: :8s: :5h: :2s: ($0.75, 2 players)
amadoglezc checks, Hero bets $0.50, amadoglezc calls $0.50

Turn: :kh: ($1.75, 2 players)
amadoglezc bets $1.30, Hero raises to $5.30, amadoglezc goes all-in $3.45

River: :tc: ($11.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $11.25
Hero shows: :kc: :8d:
amadoglezc shows: :9h: :kd:

Hero wins $11.25 ( won +$5.15 )
amadoglezc lost -$5.55

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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Oo_me_oO ($13.00)
UTG+1 andre-n-andr ($10.00)
CO dangerclub ($7.60)
BTN Hero ($10.90)
SB sam44400 ($8.85)
BB creeestos ($7.55)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :ah: :kd:
1 fold, andre-n-andr raises to $0.40, dangerclub calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, andre-n-andr calls $0.80, dangerclub calls $0.80

Flop: :ac: :3d: :6s: ($3.75, 3 players)
andre-n-andr checks, dangerclub checks, Hero bets $2, andre-n-andr folds, dangerclub calls $2

Turn: :qc: ($7.75, 2 players)
dangerclub bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: :kh: ($9.75, 2 players)
dangerclub checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $9.75
dangerclub shows: :ad: :4d:
Hero shows: :ah: :kd:

Hero wins $9.30 ( won +$5.10 )
andre-n-andr lost -$1.20
dangerclub lost -$4.20

I was worried that he may have had QQ KK and going for a check raise with the river.Should it have been a shove.?
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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG betouse ($2.90)
UTG+1 bandit229622 ($4.95)
CO mrd193571 ($4.00)
BTN Oo_me_oO ($9.95)
SB iLikeBooks ($11.80)
BB Hero ($11.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BB :qh: :kd:
1 fold, bandit229622 calls $0.10, mrd193571 calls $0.10, 1 fold, iLikeBooks calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, bandit229622 calls $0.30, mrd193571 calls $0.30, iLikeBooks folds

Flop: :jd: :qc: :6d: ($1.30, 3 players)
Hero bets $1, bandit229622 calls $1, mrd193571 folds

Turn: :2s: ($3.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $2, bandit229622 calls $2

River: :jh: ($7.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, bandit229622 goes all-in $1.55

Final Pot: $10.40
Hero shows: :qh: :kd:
bandit229622 shows: :as: :td:

Hero wins $10.55 ( won +$4.95 )
bandit229622 lost -$4.95
mrd193571 lost -$0.40
iLikeBooks lost -$0.10


finished on about 860 fpps and 397$ ish

tonight was the opposite ....made steady progress then spewed off money at he end with this being the main reason.


$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
BTN Dann Turner ($12.50)
BB Hero ($13.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 2 players) Hero is BB :qh: :jd:
Dann Turner raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: :qs: :3d: :jc: ($0.60, 2 players)
Hero checks, Dann Turner bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: :ts: ($1.60, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, Dann Turner raises to $2, Hero raises to $3.10, Dann Turner calls $1.10

River: :5d: ($7.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $3.30, Dann Turner goes all-in $8.60, Hero calls $5.30

Final Pot: $25
Hero shows: :qh: :jd:
Dann Turner shows: :kc: :ac:

Dann Turner wins $24 ( won +$11.50 )
Hero lost -$12.50

played 672 hands in the session and ended up down $8.20 with roll at $388.88 and 882.5fpps ......so 4 or 5 days at this rate can cash out the $16 fpp bonus and hopefully get another 500 in the second half of the month for another $8 bonus.

made a complete balls up on this hand. Villain was a 65/30 and I think I should just have called and let him barrel again , if he didn't then make a weak bet to get him to call/push and then shove the river

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG evgib ($7.45)
CO hannes4668 ($23.15)
BTN pouiytrewq ($11.55)
SB Charly1402 ($15.15)
BB Hero ($13.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :kh: :as:
2 folds, pouiytrewq calls $0.10, Charly1402 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.40, pouiytrewq calls $0.30, Charly1402 folds

Flop: :ac: :kc: :ad: ($0.90, 2 players)
Hero checks, pouiytrewq bets $4.80, Hero raises to $12.10, pouiytrewq folds

Final Pot: $10.50

Hero wins $17.30 ( won +$4.80 )
pouiytrewq lost -$5.20
Charly1402 lost -$0.10

When playing heads up reads are pretty important, but I'll give my 2c anyway as if I'm playing an unknown:

H1: c/r flop, lead turn/priced to call a shove probably if he's got JT/QT/AQ/AK or something like that in his range. He does NOT ONLY have AK here.

H2: What a strange spot...I probably just call, if he's got a stupid FD you want him to hit it, then value town him. Either way you probably won't gain more or less by calling or raising.

Edit: H1

AQ hand:

I would check call the turn here, if it's a 3bet pot that you're calling, TPTK isn't great to stack off with. Read dependent. I'd put QQ/JJ right in his range on the turn and fold.

Thing is, if you bet strong onto a flop in a hot pot, they're going to figure you have TPTK. So when they raise, and it's an amount that looks like they WANT you to call, it is NOT top pair good kicker or a draw most of the time.

A9s hand:

You make DAMN sure you pause for AGES on that turn call. Click on the more time button, then call... pause on the river again before checking. As it happens, he bet a nice amount anyway.

1st AK hand:

Yeah, he could have had QQ etc. so i would prolly want to pot control here too. But i would bet SOMEthing on the river, fold to a shove. Probably a small amount to get value. Likely he could have A6 or AQ here if he's calling, lol... i forgot what he had and yes, A4s. Idiots call 3bets with ANY ace here. Happens a LOT.

QJ hand:

Dude, how could you not put AK right in his range here. Just call the turn, pot control. Get that AK in his range. Hope you hit a boat on the river. No way would i be re-raising that turn. I'd be like: YOU sir have AK in your hand. Then i'd be check calling the river.

2nd AK hand:

Mother of CHRIST. Flop, good work on the check. When he bets... you wait FOR EVER and then call. I'f you'd have done this you'd be $6 richer now i fancy :)

time for a progress check I think.
these were my first 10K stats at 10NL and are virtually all of may

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/999/10kpos.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-04-24

and these are my June stats where I had a short break at the stat and was thinking over the advice I was given.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/957/june12pos.png
By keith_mm at 2009-06-13

several surprising things stand out ......
I'm stealing more ....which I didn't intentionally try to do.
my early position play has tightened up a lot ....which was an aim.
not limping as much in the blinds and playing tighter. I'm not sure whether the $ results show that I'm only playing top end hands out of the blinds now. If that is the case should I be 3 betting them more to get the VPIP/pfr more into line. small/med PP i generally call for set value. Alternatively , the poorer hands tend to be BvB when I'm stealing with virtually ATC (shhh don't tell anyone) and shutting down when I miss or am 3 bet

finally the graph for june so far.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1189/june12graph.jpg
By keith_mm at 2009-06-13

Last night ended up being a long night , but a profitable one.I gave my first sweat session to Kolonel and he watched me play. I had a good session and was explaining my bets to him and managed to make some borderline but correct folds which pleased me . Normally they would have cost me a lot more money.
I played 433 hands in total for a $30.20 profit and got into some great spots for Rob to see how to play. fpps are around the 975 mark so could soon cash out the 16$ bonus.

big hands were

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG glukka ($10.25)
UTG+1 gelle321 ($12.80)
CO Mosby18 ($6.75)
BTN younglim ($5.60)
SB drikk ($8.05)
BB Hero ($13.85)
[Mosby18 posted $0.1]

Pre-flop: ($0.25, 6 players) Hero is BB :qc: :ac:
glukka raises to $0.50, gelle321 calls $0.50, 1 fold, younglim calls $0.50, drikk calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: :jh: :ks: :th: ($2.60, 5 players)
drikk bets $0.10, Hero raises to $1.30, glukka calls $1.30, 1 fold, younglim calls $1.30, drikk folds

Turn: :8s: ($6.60, 3 players)
Hero bets $4.30, glukka calls $4.30, younglim goes all-in $3.80

River: :4c: ($19, 3 players)
Hero goes all-in $7.75, glukka goes all-in $4.15

Final Pot: $27.30
younglim shows: :kd: :ts:
Hero shows: :qc: :ac:
glukka shows: :kc: :ah:

Hero wins $29.60 ( won +$15.75 )
younglim lost -$5.60
drikk lost -$0.60
glukka lost -$10.25
gelle321 lost -$0.50


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$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG JeroAFCA ($11.45)
UTG+1 dench28 ($12.70)
CO Hero ($10.00)
BTN ApacheX ($7.60)
SB Lilly Liu ($23.05)
BB moscowsnob ($9.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is CO :kh: :kd:
1 fold, dench28 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, moscowsnob raises to $3, dench28 folds, Hero raises to $9.80, moscowsnob goes all-in $6.80

Flop: :4d: :8d: :9d: ($20.05, 2 players)

Turn: :6s: ($20.05, 2 players)

River: :qc: ($20.05, 2 players)

Final Pot: $20.05
Hero shows: :kh: :kd:
moscowsnob shows: :ac: :ks:

Hero wins $19.05 ( won +$9.25 )
dench28 lost -$0.40
moscowsnob lost -$9.80


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this was villains 2nd hand at he table and I thought he was a shortie FOS. I got lucky lol .

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bluffking85 ($5.45)
UTG+1 JeroAFCA ($11.15)
CO dench28 ($12.10)
BTN Hero ($18.65)
SB Mataador ($5.40)
BB Lilly Liu ($23.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :th: :td:
bluffking85 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, Mataador raises to $1.40, 1 fold, bluffking85 folds, Hero raises to $11.30, Mataador goes all-in $4

Flop: :kd: :5s: :3s: ($16.90, 2 players)

Turn: :tc: ($16.90, 2 players)

River: :js: ($16.90, 2 players)

Final Pot: $11
Hero shows: :th: :td:
Mataador shows: :qh: :qd:

Hero wins $16.35 ( won +$5.05 )
Mataador lost -$5.40
bluffking85 lost -$0.10


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similar situation ....villain was 60/10 over 8 hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG gelle321 ($16.15)
CO GjeeTee ($10.60)
BTN younglim ($3.70)
SB DonkHero ($12.30)
BB Hero ($10.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is BB :ah: :kh:
2 folds, younglim calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, younglim goes all-in $3.70, Hero calls $3.30

Flop: :7c: :kc: :kd: ($7.45, 2 players)

Turn: :ts: ($7.45, 2 players)

River: :6s: ($7.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $7.45
younglim shows: :qc: :ac:
Hero shows: :ah: :kh:

Hero wins $7.10 ( won +$3.40 )
younglim lost -$3.70

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this is shock horror .....an AA that held up. I was quite pleased with the way it went down as i was saying to rob what i thought the players would do and they did it.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.20)
UTG+1 RamadanChan ($15.00)
CO xcv112fd ($10.00)
BTN SuperLolo06 ($1.15)
SB Th3_pornstar ($11.30)
BB Danpil ($16.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG :ad: :ah:
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SuperLolo06 calls $0.40, 1 fold, Danpil raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $3.30, SuperLolo06 goes all-in $0.75, Danpil folds

Flop: :jd: :td: :3c: ($6, 2 players)

Turn: :3s: ($6, 2 players)

River: :7d: ($6, 2 players)

Final Pot: $4.20
Hero shows: :ad: :ah:
SuperLolo06 shows: :9h: :kh:

Hero wins $5.80 ( won +$2.50 )
Danpil lost -$1.50
SuperLolo06 lost -$1.15

Another thing that I discussed with rob was stealing and how it varies at the levels and against different players. I was stealing regularly on 2 of 3 of my tables but the others I had a station sat on my right and it was quite useful to show a different strategy depending on the type of player acting after you .
I have said that i steal with ATC against the right opponents
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Wilzyx78 ($35.35)
UTG+1 Sakh_GIRL ($6.70)
CO Lilly Liu ($10.70)
BTN Hero ($11.15)
SB -Dai VN- ($14.20)
BB artild ($5.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN :2c: :7h:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds

Final Pot: $0.25

Hero wins $0.45 ( won +$0.15 )

Yes with tight players in the blinds is pretty easy just to steal with ATC, until they adjust. Some villains just won't adjust at all. Versus looser people in the blinds you can still steal but just pick hands that are easier to play post flop/have more equity.

I think spoonitnow worked out he math to raise ATC in LP or SB. This assumes ur 0EV postflop.

If you have SB+BB VPIPs equalling less than 15 then its breakeven to raise ATC on the BU.

30 VPIP when ur in SB vs BB

Total 10vpip when in CO vs BU, SB and BB.

Good Luck with the operation. You look well on your way to success.

Also, thank you for the chat at the tables today. It convinced me to actually register instead of just lurking.

Yeah, was fun playing with you last night Keith, and welcome nilla :)

yep .....erm blind stealing off someone who has read that you'll blind steal with ATC gets a bit tricky. In other words my blind stealing was tamed down a hell of a lot on that table. I have noticed that I seem do do a lot better when I'm playing against full stacks that a table of half stacks. Latter turns into a game of chicken and the extremely volatile stats that i was posting last month.
Bank roll finished at 431.88 and 1010 fpps so can now take the 16$ bonus.played the FTR 200 on stars. Knocked out rilla with a rivered set and sucked out on stacks a couple of times. Went out on the button as the short stack but it was 3.30 am and i was knackered after the sweat night before and a days work so ended up shoving and stacking my chips neatly in front of Stacks (again doh!!!).

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Originally Posted by Keith_MM

yep .....erm blind stealing off someone who has read that you'll blind steal with ATC gets a bit tricky. In other words my blind stealing was tamed down a hell of a lot on that table. I have noticed that I seem do do a lot better when I'm playing against full stacks that a table of half stacks. Latter turns into a game of chicken and the extremely volatile stats that i was posting last month.
Bank roll finished at 431.88 and 1010 fpps so can now take the 16$ bonus.played the FTR 200 on stars. Knocked out rilla with a rivered set and sucked out on stacks a couple of times. Went out on the button as the short stack but it was 3.30 am and i was knackered after the sweat night before and a days work so ended up shoving and stacking my chips neatly in front of Stacks (again doh!!!).

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I have actually improved my blind stealing after our session the other night. Played a couple of SnG tight early, and picked up more than i normally would with nothing.

Thanks again Keith.

Regards
kolonel

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Originally Posted by nillagorilla

Good Luck with the operation. You look well on your way to success.

Also, thank you for the chat at the tables today. It convinced me to actually register instead of just lurking.

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Getting involved and having your hand histories ripped to shreds by the better players makes a hell of a difference to your play. Without it you're just doomed to continue making the same mistakes. I've still got lots to learn and if you want to do some mutual sweat sessions hopefully we can learn off each other....even if its only how other people play.

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Originally Posted by nillagorilla

Good Luck with the operation. You look well on your way to success.

Also, thank you for the chat at the tables today. It convinced me to actually register instead of just lurking.

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Getting involved and having your hand histories ripped to shreds by the better players makes a hell of a difference to your play. Without it you're just doomed to continue making the same mistakes. I've still got lots to learn and if you want to do some mutual sweat sessions hopefully we can learn off each other....even if its only how other people play.

I'm seriously starting to hate AA now . Played 426 hands in the sesion for a net loss of $11.15 ( it was -$26 at one stage) and roll stands at $420.13 and 1029.5 fpps . It just seemed a bad night tables wise , lots of stations and 3 betters and I kept missing or if I hit they hit better.
villain was 53/8/1 and i tried the .30 raise as 40 i seem to get it folded round at UTG. he'd still have called though . I was putting him on straight draw/flush draw/AK/AQ/AJ type hands
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
UTG+1 breeezzz ($7.05)
CO Cellulare ($10.75)
BTN merkske ($14.00)
SB shiftyp1979 ($27.25)
BB Elite00fm ($11.35)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG :as: :ac:
Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, Cellulare calls $0.30, 1 fold, shiftyp1979 calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: :kh: :jc: :2h: ($1, 3 players)
shiftyp1979 checks, Hero bets $1, Cellulare folds, shiftyp1979 calls $1

Turn: :3d: ($3, 2 players)
shiftyp1979 checks, Hero bets $2.50, shiftyp1979 calls $2.50

River: :7s: ($8, 2 players)
shiftyp1979 checks, Hero goes all-in $6.20, shiftyp1979 calls $6.20

Final Pot: $20.40
shiftyp1979 shows: :2d: :2s:
Hero shows: :as: :ac:

shiftyp1979 wins $19.40 ( won +$9.40 )
Hero lost -$10
Cellulare lost -$0.30

I PLAYED WIT YOU
Hey Keith, what was your thought process on this hand. Hope you kind of remember its about a month ago
you are UTG and had JJ
To me BTN 3bet range is 55+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,ATo+,KJo+,QJo
Why C/C flop,bet the card that hits him or scares him and bet the river so small, did you know you where value betting?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($10)
UTG ($18.80)
Hero (MP) ($10.35)
Button ($15.60)
SB ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9c.gif
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.70, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.55) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/6d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/6h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/5s.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Button bets $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.75) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ah.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $2.70, Button calls $2.70

River: ($9.15) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qh.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $2, Button calls $2

Total pot: $13.15 | Rake: $0.60

honestly can't remember. found the hand in my HEM and villains stats were 29/8/4 and 6.7% 3bet%.

I couldn't have thought that the flop hit him, didnt want to bet and be raised so either check call or check raise. Tried representing a big Ace on turn. River bet was probably a blocking bet to get value out of smaller PP and would have folded to a raise. Thought my hand had some showdown value and checking the river would probably have faced a 5$ bet and had to fold.