nl200: AKo UTG confusion 3way

SB is 25/22/2.3 over 550 hands, 3bets 9.7% and is pretty good overall. His 3betting is kind of distributed wierd, w/ 11% MP, 0% CO, only 5% button, 15%SB and 11% BB. BB is a pretty passive fish. I only have 25 hands on him, but hes done things fish do. I fold AK preflop less than chardrian gets pms, but ....

Bonus question: Without BB's action, should i be calling 150bbs deep and playing a flop vs SB?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

BB ($67.45)
Hero (UTG) ($285)
MP ($226.50)
CO ($144.05)
Button ($49.05)
SB ($360)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
Hero bets $7, 3 folds, SB raises to $25, BB raises to $67.45 (All-In), Hero ????

I think calling or shoving both have a lot more downside than upside, mainly since the SB 3-bet your UTG raise. Call / folding is a waste, and moving in against the SB's A-A or K-K is also quite bad obviously. Plus, even if the SB ends up not having a big hand here, you can still end up losing a coinflip against the BB's 8-8 or whatever.

By the way, what does "3-bets 9.7%" mean? He actually 3-bets preflop one out of every ten hands, or does it mean something else? I wouldn't put too much faith in the numbers you have on the positions where the SB 3-bets, since you're probably dealing with a pretty small sample of 3-bettable hands.

9.7% basically rounds out to 1 out of 10 times when theres a raise before he acts he 3-bets. Takes a large sample of hands overall to get a good sample of those situations.

I think there are times you can fold AK, this feels like one.

yeah it takes a big sample to really know someones 3betting tendencies, but even over 500 hands you get a pretty good idea. this guy def 3bets more than most.

shove and hope SB folds giving you overlay

I fold this. SB is not 3betting a loose range vs. your UTG raise if he is half as good as you indicate unless you've been playing too much out of UTG.
I think a generous range for SB here is AK, JJ+. With 3.5bb in and 150bb deep, EZ fold.

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Originally Posted by Silly String

I fold this. SB is not 3betting a loose range vs. your UTG raise if he is half as good as you indicate unless you've been playing too much out of UTG.
I think a generous range for SB here is AK, JJ+. With 3.5bb in and 150bb deep, EZ fold.

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he's 3b way wider than that to "defend his blind"

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Originally Posted by iopq

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Originally Posted by Silly String

I fold this. SB is not 3betting a loose range vs. your UTG raise if he is half as good as you indicate unless you've been playing too much out of UTG.
I think a generous range for SB here is AK, JJ+. With 3.5bb in and 150bb deep, EZ fold.

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he's 3b way wider than that to "defend his blind"

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iopq, i never stated this and its a pretty big mistake to think someone who i described as being good would think this way. When good players 3bet from the blinds its not to "defend their blind". were not playing limit here.

definitely fold and yes, call in other scenario.