JJ too thin?

villain is 12/6. Pretty sure he doesn't have 2x and wouldnt raise a full here. It's llikely he raises his bigger over pairs like 88+ and it's possible they could have QQ and flush draws.. AA/KK are definitely 3bets pre. Given the fact a Q drops on turn and makes less likely QQ.

I obv dont 3b flop as I just get owned too much and all worse hands fold.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($50.00)
UTG+1 ($49.25)
MP1 ($20.00)
MP2 ($11.25)
CO ($48.95)
BTN ($14.50)
Hero (SB) ($52.50)
BB ($50.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is SB :jd: :jh:
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.25, 1 fold

Flop: :2d: :3s: :2s: ($3.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, UTG+1 raises to $8, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: :qc: ($19.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $14, Hero goes all-in $43 ...

check call down; this is bad

i fold to his flop raise given his 12/6 stat. You just made your life very difficult when calling UTG flop raise opp.

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

check call down; this is bad

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yep, c/c flop>>>>>>>>>this

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Originally Posted by pokerfan

i fold to his flop raise given his 12/6 stat. You just made your life very difficult when calling UTG flop raise opp.

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Nahh, i don't fold ever. c/call down > fold > your line.

(I may consider a turn fold however.)

i dont get what leading the flop acheives here?

If your opponent clearly hit the flop or its a gross flop that you can bet/3bet (perhaps bet/3bet AI) and get away with doing it without just nut hands (sets/straights/combo draws) then id like your line - but this isnt - you clearly arent going to have many nut hands vs the top end of his one pair/FD overs range that you play like this ( i think playing a boat this way is pretty cool)
Therefore i dont see how your line is good - if there is a chance your hand is good on turn then id call and use the spades to bluff at giving you ~30% the remaining cards to play with that you can play when you may have nut hands here.