bad spot to cbet?

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03-30-2009, 02:34 AM
b-rabbit

bad spot to cbet?

both villains are 31/20ish

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($25)
MP ($28.40)
Hero (CO) ($25.55)
Button ($25.25)
SB ($25.75)
BB ($26.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
UTG bets $1, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, UTG calls $2, MP calls $2

Flop: ($9.35) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, 1 fold, MP raises to $25.40 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $21.35 | Rake: $1
03-30-2009, 02:57 AM
minSim

Yes bad spot, and I wouldn't 3bet pre.
03-30-2009, 04:06 AM
Marshall28

3b is fine imo. Cbet is fine also. Everything about this hand appears standard to me.
03-30-2009, 05:06 AM
minSim

Please expand a bit Marshall if you want;

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall28

3b is fine imo.

Are you calling a shove? What hands do you assume villain calls?
Aren't we throwing away a lot of our hand value being IP?
What about the 3bet size?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall28

Cbet is fine also. Everything about this hand appears standard to me.

What hands that called an UTG 3bet pre, are folding this 2 way flop? What's your turn plan when called on the flop?
03-30-2009, 05:25 AM
XTR1000

Given reads I dont mind 3betting, Id make it 14-15BB tho with the caller in between. Whether or not to cbet, depends on how much I´ve been 3betting before, with a not too crazy image this is prob okay.
03-31-2009, 02:07 PM
Luke999

I'd call pre, don't want to push out his Ax (x=crap) and your in position.

Check back flop, you've got backdoor draws and 2 overs.
03-31-2009, 03:12 PM
Genitruc

if you 3 bet then make it bigger pre and if you c bet this flop i d bet-call
04-03-2009, 06:53 AM
dsaxton

I'd guess that betting the flop and checking behind are probably almost awash. The J seems to hit the combined ranges of the two players in these kinds of situations a lot, but betting can't be that bad. As Genitruc said, if you're going to 3-bet preflop, make it bigger.