Nits scare me when they raise.

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02-25-2009, 01:43 PM
Im_new

Nits scare me when they raise.

This feels weak, but what else could villian possibly have that plays this way?

Villian is running 4/2.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($4.95)
UTG+1 ($15.35)
MP1 ($7.95)
Hero (MP2) ($53.80)
CO ($29.95)
Button ($33.10)
SB ($17.60)
BB ($25.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
3 folds, Hero bets $1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $3.85, Hero calls $2.75

I should re-evaluate the turn, right?

Turn: ($9.80) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4.75, Hero thinks villian has AK, KQ, 77 and is value betting him.
02-25-2009, 01:52 PM
badgers

hahahaha 4/2! What sample size?

I think fold flop is probs right if 4/2 is over a decent size, although he could be massively retarded with aces so call and fold to most turn bets may be ok.
02-25-2009, 01:53 PM
ZwiFT

you only beat AA which he most likely will 3bet pre. Whats his aggression factor? Have he checkraised flop before? If not i can safely fold the flop. Without knowing anything about his postflop play i call and c/f turn
02-25-2009, 01:54 PM
Im_new

I just played with poker stove.

On the turn, If I put AA,77,KQo,KQs,AKo,AKs into his range, I am 42.9% to win, and he is 57.08% to win.

However, if I add QQ into his range then it becomes ~56.2% in my favor.
02-25-2009, 02:00 PM
ZwiFT

I dont see him turning a hand with showdown value into a bluff, if he does. You rape him later. His range is so small there is no way he is not stacking off QQ+AK on the right boads
02-25-2009, 02:05 PM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

I just played with poker stove.

On the turn, If I put AA,77,KQo,KQs,AKo,AKs into his range, I am 42.9% to win, and he is 57.08% to win.

However, if I add QQ into his range then it becomes ~56.2% in my favor.

While this might be his preflop range, there is alot more factors comming into play here.

- Atleast 3bet AA preflop 50% of the time
- Calling AA on the flop 80% of the time
- Is really 77 in his range at all?
- Would he barrel turn with AA or QQ?
02-25-2009, 02:06 PM
Im_new

It was over 170 hands... and I hadn't noticed him much (lol obviously).

I folded--- Sure, it was a street late, but I got away :).
02-25-2009, 02:16 PM
Deanglow

always call the turn here imo
02-25-2009, 02:33 PM
oskar

I don't think he's calling with QK with that stats. So he'd have to have AK with the case K. Much more likely he was trying to trap you with aces or queens imo. I don't fold.
170 hands is not a lot either.
02-25-2009, 03:06 PM
Micro2Macro

Re: Nits scare me when they raise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Villian is running 4/2.

lol, SN?
02-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Im_new

Re: Nits scare me when they raise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Villian is running 4/2.

lol, SN?

no idea what SN means...
02-25-2009, 04:06 PM
Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

I just played with poker stove.

On the turn, If I put AA,77,KQo,KQs,AKo,AKs into his range, I am 42.9% to win, and he is 57.08% to win.

However, if I add QQ into his range then it becomes ~56.2% in my favor.

While this might be his preflop range, there is alot more factors comming into play here.

- Atleast 3bet AA preflop 50% of the time
- Calling AA on the flop 80% of the time
- Is really 77 in his range at all?
- Would he barrel turn with AA or QQ?

Those percentages and ranges are for the turn.
02-25-2009, 04:18 PM
mxiu

Re: Nits scare me when they raise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micro2Macro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Villian is running 4/2.

lol, SN?

no idea what SN means...

screen name
02-25-2009, 04:49 PM
Im_new

Oh... it was "Das Volk"

Do you guys have more info about him in your databases?
02-25-2009, 06:04 PM
mixchange

nits should scare you when they raise!!
02-25-2009, 07:22 PM
Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixchange

nits should scare you when they raise!!

fair enough. :lol:
02-25-2009, 08:49 PM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

I just played with poker stove.

On the turn, If I put AA,77,KQo,KQs,AKo,AKs into his range, I am 42.9% to win, and he is 57.08% to win.

However, if I add QQ into his range then it becomes ~56.2% in my favor.

While this might be his preflop range, there is alot more factors comming into play here.

- Atleast 3bet AA preflop 50% of the time
- Calling AA on the flop 80% of the time
- Is really 77 in his range at all?
- Would he barrel turn with AA or QQ?

Those percentages and ranges are for the turn.

Yeah, but they are wrong when you add in everything i said
02-25-2009, 09:01 PM
Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im_new

I just played with poker stove.

On the turn, If I put AA,77,KQo,KQs,AKo,AKs into his range, I am 42.9% to win, and he is 57.08% to win.

However, if I add QQ into his range then it becomes ~56.2% in my favor.

While this might be his preflop range, there is alot more factors comming into play here.

- Atleast 3bet AA preflop 50% of the time
- Calling AA on the flop 80% of the time
- Is really 77 in his range at all?
- Would he barrel turn with AA or QQ?

Those percentages and ranges are for the turn.

Yeah, but they are wrong when you add in everything i said

uhhh.... I think I understood that much. ;) I was making sure that you knew the range I stated was what I felt his range would include (whether right or wrong, too tight or loose). Especially because you called the range I made his "preflop range" instead of an incorrect turn range.
02-25-2009, 09:27 PM
vennix

I would have check raised. How much were you sitting wiht at the time?
02-26-2009, 06:45 AM
ZwiFT

oh yeah, i called that one out wrong, of course i meant incorrect turn