QQ lots of action preflop

Every single one of these players are playing around 21/17 and seem to be regs/competent. The UTG guy is a huge fish spewing off his money which is why I stayed at the table. The SB 3bets 7.0% of the time with ALL of them being in the SB over 114 hands so small sample though. BB 3bets 0% of the time. I wasn't really sure if I should be scared or trying to trap with a monster or what.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($54.55)
Button ($72.55)
SB ($57.40)
BB ($105.65)
UTG ($57.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls $1.75, SB raises to $8.50, BB calls $8, Hero raises to $54.55 (All-In)

well obviously your way ahead of sbs 3 betting range though im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position. However you cant put him on aa and kk all the time so I cant see any option other than to 4 bet get/it in.

I'm torn between this and $26; I don't think either is bad so long as you've shown a propensity towards flinging poo (which I'm sure you have at some point over 114 hands)

Hugely standard, you can push or you can 4 bet small and get it in.

SB - its a squeeze, so squeeze % more relevant here, but either way prolly too small sample size

BB - i think 4bet % is what matters here or call 3bet %...


I play it the same though.

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I play it the same though.

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Would you spike the Q on the river to pwn AA, too? Just wondering.

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

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I play it the same though.

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Would you spike the Q on the river to pwn AA, too? Just wondering.

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Yeah, thats the only reason I would play it the same.... if I didnt feel the Q coming I would have open mucked

nh

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I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

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You have to take in account of ranges/stack sizes/etc. because I don't understand this at all.

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I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

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wat?

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FYP

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im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position.

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God help me if there are people thinking like this at 50nl.

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im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position.

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God help me if there are people thinking like this at 50nl.

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I can assure you that there is about no one that thinks like this at 50nl

Pushing instead of 4b/get it in is probably bad for balance purposes. If you're ever 4betting light at 50NL are you going to want to push?

^^^ I don't think balance is really an issue here given the action. 4 bet bluffing in this spot would be pretty insane.

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Pushing instead of 4b/get it in is probably bad for balance purposes. If you're ever 4betting light at 50NL are you going to want to push?

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wat

Is it time to troll for freeroll passwords again?

i get what para is saying, it's pretty simple yah? If you're ever going to 4bet bluff in this spot, then you won't be shoving. So when you have a real hand like QQ, play it like a 4bet bluff except call the shove.

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wat?

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f u

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wat?

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f u

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stfu and go rig some more competitions. And learn something about poker before giving more advice please.

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wat?

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stfu and go rig some more competitions. And learn something about poker before giving more advice please.

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ok phil ivey

4 bet bluffing isnt really necessary @ 50nl imo. usually a cold call in the blinds to a 3b is a high pp QQ+

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i get what para is saying, it's pretty simple yah? If you're ever going to 4bet bluff in this spot, then you won't be shoving. So when you have a real hand like QQ, play it like a 4bet bluff except call the shove.

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so if u were to 4bet bluff in this spot, you would make it >25$ then fold to a shove, ya?

cool

Probably should have read the history before posting...

With reads given this is a shove

With no reads this is a shove anyway

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With reads given this is a shove

With no reads this is a shove anyway

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lol exactly

Actually i don't think flatting is a bad play if you have some postflop reads on these guys.