AA facing shove on wet board

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12-21-2008, 01:05 AM
Illfavor

AA facing shove on wet board

Villain was Loose-Aggressive.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($4.25)
Hero (MP) ($5.23)
Button ($7.39)
SB ($12.70)
BB ($3.49)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.18, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.45) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.80, SB raises to $5.03, Hero calls $4.23 (All-In)

Turn: ($10.51) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($10.51) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.51 | Rake: $0.50

I feel like this could be a fold, but that also there are tons of draws they are doing this with. Thoughts, smart folks?

FWIW, I put him on QJs, JJ, T9, TT, 99, 66, 87, AT(maybe Aoclubs, but this is less likely), some sort of 85s combo. I imagine I'm not too good against that range, but I can't stove it...
12-21-2008, 01:13 AM
ATOTHEC101

If villain made a smaller flop 4 bet instead of shoving I may be inclined to fold, but here you definitely call, plenty of worse hands and draws in his range.
12-21-2008, 01:17 AM
bigspenda73

I'd probably just call the flop, keep the pot in control, and analyze the turn card+his actions.
12-21-2008, 01:50 AM
Illfavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I'd probably just call the flop, keep the pot in control, and analyze the turn card+his actions.

..because the turn card drastically changes things? Like, if it's a non club 2 on the turn and he bets pot I pretty much have to give him cred for 2pair+ right and foold?
12-21-2008, 01:51 AM
AFchung

i'd call the flop to see the turn, and probably fold with that turn
12-21-2008, 02:08 AM

I fold on the turn when the following cards hit: clubs, 7s and 8s because if he doesn't make the flush/straight but still bets he probably has a better than average hand

but if he checks the turn I'll be inclined to call a river bet
so flat flop, call a bricked turn make a decision on the river
12-21-2008, 02:24 AM
flomo

*i'm drunk and going to a stupid jerk so ignore*
illfavor played as i would have played
raised pre and then got it all in

OP posted villian loose-ag
what is your talbe image? what are you?
12-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Illfavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

I fold on the turn when the following cards hit: clubs, 7s and 8s because if he doesn't make the flush/straight but still bets he probably has a better than average hand

What is he betting on the turn that we beat? AT and JJ?
12-21-2008, 02:26 AM
Illfavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by flomo

what is your talbe image? what are you?

Lol...I probably appeared a little loose but I was getting cards and not really having to show down hands.
12-21-2008, 03:08 AM
xptboy

pretty easy call for me
12-21-2008, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illfavor

Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

I fold on the turn when the following cards hit: clubs, 7s and 8s because if he doesn't make the flush/straight but still bets he probably has a better than average hand

What is he betting on the turn that we beat? AT and JJ?

shit tons of combo draws
that turn card, however completes like all of them or gives him two pair if he had straight draw + pair