25NL fold or shove

Bu is 33/20/1.1 and SB is 56/41/2 over around 100 hands. Flop cbet bet size okay? On the Turn I spike top pair in addition to OESD, but with that pot it looks like a check/fold or shove and I'm not folding this. Know 2pr are def in range, but also see other straight draws and Jx hands. Bad shove?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($38.85)
UTG ($25)
Hero (MP) ($15)
CO ($26.75)
Button ($26.60)
SB ($30.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.80, Button calls $1.80, SB calls $1.80

Turn: ($8.20) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.35 (All-In), Button calls $12.35, 1 fold

River: ($32.90) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $32.90 | Rake: $1.60

Against spewy/passive opponents I probably won't bet this flop. If you bet, you're betting for FE, right?
On the turn they either have you beat or are still drawing + second pair, which you won't get much value from by shoving. I'd probably bet $6 and shove the river regardless of what comes.
I don't quite understand the reasoning behind check/fold.

Do u buyin for 60X BB all the time or forgot to reload after a pot?
I like 6-.750 on the turn n shove any river better just cuz a lotta players will pay the 6-7.50 on turn with garbage hands and then pay the river cuz "priced in" but wont call $12 on the turn. With only 60BB ur left with making less difficult decisions.

Smaller bet, keep worse hands in the pot.

^^^ But hero will be practically commited with any bet size, no?

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Originally Posted by kettleofish

^^^ But hero will be practically commited with any bet size, no?

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yes which is fine because this also means villain will be committed with a wider range. If he calls the turn he'll most likely be like dammit now I have to call but with a slight overbet less hands continue.

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Originally Posted by oskar

If you bet, you're betting for FE, right?

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Yes, plus to try and control the pot and avoid a PSB from the button.

So I'm already committed to the pot on the Turn. Bet a little smaller to keep the crap in, and then get it in on the river. Makes sense.

Thanks!!! :D

I'd bet more on flop. Then turn is more trivial.

I don't bet that flop 3-handed

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Originally Posted by iopq

I don't bet that flop 3-handed

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Yeah, maybe.

I bet $1 pre. If I check to button I'm c/r depending on reads.

Don't hammer the turn. You most likely have the best hand, and only better are calling. Bet yes, but damn, nobody says if you are committed you need to fold out a Qx or AJ type hand.

I bet this flop all day. You have a hand, start building, but leave some room if the turn goes bad to get out.

are you calling a raise on the flop if it goes heads-up?

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Originally Posted by iopq

I don't bet that flop 3-handed

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I bet it twice on Sunday. This ain't full ring.

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Originally Posted by iopq

are you calling a raise on the flop if it goes heads-up?

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Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Fnord

This ain't full ring.

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Oh

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Originally Posted by oskar

Against spewy/passive opponents I probably won't bet this flop. If you bet, you're betting for FE, right?

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Against spewy/passives, the raise is for value and FE. Hero has 8 outs to the nuts and is OK with K or Q. The flop cbet disguises the draw, and many opponents at 25nl (especially spewy/passive ones) will call it down with AJ/AT and worse.

As played, sarbox, bet the turn smaller and be ready to get it all in on the river, imo.