Had a really craptacular session tonight
Again another time where I won small pots and lost some big ones. Had a bad run in with one particular villain who took my entire stack with two hands. I'm going to post these hands with my comments because I know I played them both badly.
My table image is pretty tight, I was running about 22/12 but couldn't get any value from my good hands.
PokerStars Game #20233539060: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2008/09/07 21:38:26 ET
Table Memnon 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: BlackRain79 ($9.93 in chips)
Seat 2: steviex2 ($4.31 in chips)
Seat 3: gary47433 ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 4: JONNIE GIRL ($1.79 in chips)
Seat 5: CBDAWG9 ($6 in chips)
Seat 6: deviantla ($4.41 in chips)
Seat 7: veidtmeister ($7.23 in chips)
Seat 8: ponyfitness ($7.12 in chips)
Seat 9: buehl111 ($13.42 in chips)
JONNIE GIRL: posts small blind $0.02
CBDAWG9: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ponyfitness [Kc Ad]
deviantla: calls $0.05
veidtmeister: folds
ponyfitness: calls $0.05
* I only limped here because I had raised with the exact same hand and took at down with a c-bet literally the hand before.
buehl111: raises $0.05 to $0.10
BlackRain79: folds
steviex2: folds
gary47433: folds
JONNIE GIRL: folds
JONNIE GIRL said, "WHERE ARE YOU FROM"
CBDAWG9: folds
deviantla: calls $0.05
ponyfitness: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8h Qs]
deviantla: checks
ponyfitness: bets $0.20
* Very weak bet - however I was also finding that people were folding to strong bets from me and I wanted to get some value out of this hand. Probably should have been at least .50.
gary47433 said, "indiana"
buehl111: raises $0.45 to $0.65
deviantla: folds
JONNIE GIRL said, "SC"
ponyfitness: calls $0.45
*** TURN *** [Ks 8h Qs] [Th]
ponyfitness: checks
buehl111: bets $1.25
* By this time I'm wondering what he could have. My read was over 80 hands and I had seen everything from 4/5s raised preflop to KK pushed preflop. It was very hard to put him on a hand but I thought 88 or AJ was a possibility due to the minraise preflop.
JONNIE GIRL said, " IS IT COLD THERE"
gary47433 said, "70s"
ponyfitness: raises $1.25 to $2.50
* Should have raised this more, probably to at least $3 or $4.
buehl111: calls $1.25
*** RIVER *** [Ks 8h Qs Th] [8s]
ponyfitness: checks
* By this time I knew I was beaten when he just called my raise.
JONNIE GIRL said, "90s here"
gary47433 said, "bike weather"
buehl111: bets $2.30
JONNIE GIRL said, "yes"
ponyfitness: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.30) returned to buehl111
veidtmeister said, "wow"
buehl111 collected $6.37 from pot
buehl111: doesnt show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.67 | Rake $0.30
Board [Ks 8h Qs Th 8s]
Seat 1: BlackRain79 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: steviex2 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: gary47433 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: JONNIE GIRL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: CBDAWG9 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: deviantla folded on the Flop
Seat 7: veidtmeister folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: ponyfitness folded on the River
Seat 9: buehl111 collected ($6.37)
Okay, so laid that one down - however when the almost exact same situation came up I decided to do what I thought I should have done last time for the most part.
PokerStars Game #20233993232: Holdem No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2008/09/07 21:58:59 ET
Table Memnon 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: BlackRain79 ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: steviex2 ($4.17 in chips)
Seat 3: gary47433 ($4.68 in chips)
Seat 4: JONNIE GIRL ($3.07 in chips)
Seat 5: Diddler01 ($5.27 in chips)
Seat 6: deviantla ($4.12 in chips)
Seat 7: veidtmeister ($7.08 in chips)
Seat 8: ponyfitness ($3.93 in chips)
Seat 9: buehl111 ($16.58 in chips)
Diddler01: posts small blind $0.02
deviantla: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ponyfitness [Ks Ac]
veidtmeister: folds
ponyfitness: raises $0.15 to $0.20
buehl111: calls $0.20
BlackRain79: folds
steviex2: folds
gary47433: folds
JONNIE GIRL: calls $0.20
Diddler01: folds
deviantla: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 2s 9h]
ponyfitness: bets $0.50
buehl111: calls $0.50
JONNIE GIRL: folds
*** TURN *** [Kc 2s 9h] [2c]
ponyfitness: bets $1
* Here again I should have bet more - $2 at least.
buehl111: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Kc 2s 9h 2c] [9d]
ponyfitness: bets $1
buehl111: raises $1.50 to $2.50
ponyfitness: calls $1.23 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.27) returned to buehl111
*** SHOW DOWN ***
buehl111: shows [8c 9c] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces)
ponyfitness: mucks hand
buehl111 collected $7.78 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.13 | Rake $0.35
Board [Kc 2s 9h 2c 9d]
Seat 1: BlackRain79 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: steviex2 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: gary47433 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: JONNIE GIRL (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Diddler01 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: deviantla (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: veidtmeister folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: ponyfitness mucked [Ks Ac]
Seat 9: buehl111 showed [8c 9c] and won ($7.78) with a full house, Nines full of Deuces
Okay, so he sucked out the full house on the river - do you think if I had bet the proper size on the turn I would have driven him out of the hand?
I had a decent session otherwise in terms of bet sizing but when I get into a confrontation like with this guy I have real problems.
Re: Had a really craptacular session tonight
Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyboy
My table image is pretty tight, I was running about 22/12
Things such as image isn't accounted for at 5nl. Or evern 25nl, and maybe higher. THe fact of the matter is the majority of your opponents aren't paying enough attention to make it +ev to make an image-dependent move. Also, fwiw, if you are seen as running 22/12 that isn't "pretty tight" that is semi-loose and rather limptastic.
As far as hand one you messed up preflop so it's gonna be hard to get advice because most people won't be in this situation. Raise preflop. And your reasoning for limping isn't a sound one either. "I raised with the exact same hand and won with a c-bet the hand before." For one, the villians don't know you had the same hand. And two you make it sound as if that is a bad thing that you won on the flop with a c-bet. It really isn't. Better than playing a big pot and losing amirite? So once again just focuing on making the most +ev moves, and limp/calling here isn't it.
