100NL, two trivial hands vs weak tight regulars

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08-07-2008, 10:05 PM
pokerfan

100NL, two trivial hands vs weak tight regulars

hand 1: villain is a 11/7.5/2.2 tight passive regular over 5000 hands. His cb% and steal% are both pretty low.
It just comes down to the question of how big his pocket is in this spot?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($99)
BB ($112.20)
UTG ($106.35)
UTG+1 ($200.35)
MP1 ($133.05)
MP2 ($103.50)
CO ($18.50)
Button ($205.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($13) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $7, Hero calls $7, UTG folds.

Turn: ($27) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero ?

hand 2: villain is a weak tight regular running 12/7.6/3 over 2000 hands. I know my preflop call is a little bit loose, huh? His attention to steal % is 25% and cb% is 52%.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($30)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($90.05)
MP1 ($115.40)
MP2 ($94.80)
CO ($26)
Button ($98.50)
Hero ($104.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
5 folds, Button raises to $4, Hero calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($21) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $12, Button calls $12.

River: ($45) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $18, Hero ?
08-07-2008, 10:09 PM
Fnord

Re: 100NL, two trivial hands vs weak tight regulars

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerfan

I know my preflop call is absurdly standard against anyone who's ever heard of a steal

Hand 1: Bet/fold the turn, check/fold the river.
Hand 2: You kept the pot size down, I'd just look him up.
08-07-2008, 10:56 PM
nutsinho

hand 1 i agree with fnord, hand 2 why did you bet the turn??
08-08-2008, 12:14 AM
pokerfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

hand 1 i agree with fnord, hand 2 why did you bet the turn??

hand 2: i just mixed up my play in these spots. Sometimes my TPGK line is c/c & c/c but i dont really feel comfortable on the river vs these passive nits.
08-08-2008, 03:45 AM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by nutsinho

hand 1 i agree with fnord, hand 2 why did you bet the turn??

Worse hands check behind and the paired T will freeze up better hands.
08-08-2008, 03:54 AM
bigspenda73

I think hand 1 is closer to c/f than b/f against 100nl FR nits on this turn card.
08-08-2008, 04:14 AM
Fnord

Fair enough, I just don't like to fold good hands.
08-08-2008, 04:26 AM
bigspenda73

You also want to take into account that 22-77 typically limps behind an UTG limper from a player with these stats.
08-08-2008, 07:10 AM
hockey4433

hand 1, what makes his range JJ+ since some feel that hero is behind here?? Would villian not take this very line with smaller pockets then hero??
08-08-2008, 07:42 AM
pokerfan

yeah, the guy is sooo tight passive that c/f might be optimal given his preflop/flop action. By the way, this solid read is based on 5000+ hands i played with him in 100 FR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

You also want to take into account that 22-77 typically limps behind an UTG limper from a player with these stats.
08-08-2008, 03:35 PM
Miffed22001

1. I wouldnt lead the turn, as your opp is passive and i feel your hand is fairly face up (look ma! I haz a pair!)

2. I dont mind this hand, i play a hand similar to this but id bet the river to follow up when i called with Tx on the flop or missed my draw if i played it this way.
I just think its too much for 100nl, which for me is all about value
08-08-2008, 04:14 PM
Fnord

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

i feel your hand is fairly face up

Sometimes I like to mix it up and actually have the hand I'm representing.
08-08-2008, 04:30 PM
elipsesjeff

spenda speaks da truth
08-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Deanglow

Just checkcall the turn in hand 1 and probably checkfold the river but im a station so idk. No reason to bet.

hand 2 similar situation just checkcall down and lead river if he checks behind turn