What's happened to Everest??? (and the tightening up of FR)

I started playing 25nl FR at Everest about a year ago and found the games pretty loose. I worked my way up to 50nl and then 100nl beating them at a good rate til I had a bad downswing at 100nl. I stopped playing for a couple of months then picked up 10nl 6-max at Everest but that hasn't worked out so great so tonight I went to try and rekindle the old days by sitting down at some FR tables at Everest. It was only 10nl but to my shock and horror I found the games much tighter than I remeber them. Here are the stats which I have collected over thousands of hands from Everest:

25nl FR, June - August 07 avg saw flop % = %33.53
50nl FR, August - December 07 avg saw flop % = 29.9
100nl FR, Dec 07 - Feb 08 avg saw flop % = %28.17

Today at prime time here with 25k players online at Everest (that's about as many as you will see there) the avg saw flop % for my two sessions of 500 hands (small sample but it is prime time remember) was a mere %27.58!!!!!

This means that 10nl FR games are tighter than the 100nl ones only 4 months ago!!! What has happened? Is this being replicated elsewhere? Does anyone have any SF% from others they could share just so I can see. I played 1500 hands at ipoker which was HORRIBLE. That was 50nl last September and the SF% was 22.31%. I went there to get a bonus but soon gave up because the games were so much jucier at Everest that it wasn't worth it anymore.

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

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Hijack!

I'm thinking thousands refers to 4k-20k, tens of thousands from 30k-150k and then hundreds of thousands from 200k-1 million.

After you hit 1 million though it just sounds more baller to say '1 million hands.'

Learn the lingo Carl!

The sample sizes are about 20k at each level. I think that once you get to that level the SF% is pretty accurate. Having 2m hands will only make it more marginally more accurate.

EDIT: Looking at the trend of the sample sizes you would expect the ASF% fot 10nl to be about 36-37%. There's no way a larger sample size would yield a 8-9% swing

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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

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Originally Posted by givememyleg

saaaaaaample siiiiiiiizeeeeee

also, how many hands are "thousands"? that could mean 2,000 or 800,000

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Hijack!

I'm thinking thousands refers to 4k-20k, tens of thousands from 30k-150k and then hundreds of thousands from 200k-1 million.

After you hit 1 million though it just sounds more baller to say '1 million hands.'

Learn the lingo Carl!

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ah, shucks!

On Everest, the preflop numbers mean nothing. Nobody there can play post flop so just make sure you have a few looser players to your right and enjoy.

I play $100NL 6 max there and have a great time. I just make sure that there is at least 2 or 3 French flags in the table list before I sit.