200NL: 2pairs button against MP TAG

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
10 players
Seat 1: CO ($170.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero [ 4H,3H ] ($197.00 in chips)
Seat 3: SB ($146.80 in chips)
Seat 4: BB ($203.50 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG ($194.65 in chips)
Seat 6: UTG+1 ($99.05 in chips)
Seat 7: MP1 ($206.05 in chips)
Seat 8: MP2 ($195.00 in chips)
Seat 9: MP3 ($431.50 in chips)
Seat 10: CO+1 ($301.70 in chips)
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with 4 :heart: 3 :heart:
3 folds, MP1 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4 :club: K :heart: 3 :club: ($15, 2 players)
MP1 bets $11, Hero raises to $29, MP1 raises to $61, Hero thinking whether to call, CiB or push

villain running like 17/11/1.7. At this point I didn't knew much about him a part from these stats.
We have near the nuts on the flop. I thought of the following options:
- call (good if he 2 barrils air or TP/2nd pair hands, but bad if he is on a FD)
- CiB (he might push over with TP hands, but bad if he is on a FD)
- push (puts the pressure on him, but he will fold TP hands most often)
Dunno ... what would you do?

i definitely wouldnt call as to many turn cards kill our action as well as scare us. Id just time it right down like i have a super tough decision with kq or a flush draw and shove it in.

turbo-shove, get called by a flush draw, win.

he's pretty unlikely to be 3bet/folding this flop...

He's not folding.

All-in. Even if he folds AA/AK I'm pretty happy with the hand.

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Originally Posted by Fnord

All-in. Even if he folds AA/AK I'm pretty happy with the hand.

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My thougths during the hand exactly ;-)
Now, I was wondering if another line would be better.
I pushed and villain folded. I guess he either had AK/KQ (and maybe QQ/JJ) or a FD.

villain was prbs a retard with air nothign else makes sense

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Originally Posted by badgers

villain was prbs a retard with air nothign else makes sense

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He could be making a big laydown here.

Food for thought: If he calls with AK or AA here, we make $23 worth of EV.

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villain was prbs a retard with air nothign else makes sense

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He could be making a big laydown here.

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While we have a lot of draws on our range 3bet/folding makes absolutely no sense in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by badgers

While we have a lot of draws on our range 3bet/folding makes absolutely no sense in my opinion.

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It's online full ring.

what live is better?

*insert lolface here*

push good

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Originally Posted by Fnord

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Originally Posted by badgers

villain was prbs a retard with air nothign else makes sense

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He could be making a big laydown here.

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While we have a lot of draws on our range 3bet/folding makes absolutely no sense in my opinion.

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I've seen these villain's 3bet / fold with TP hands.

3betting AK then folding to a shove wouldn't be a bad play here, given our range for shoving this is two pair, sets, AA, and the combo draw, with a random AK thrown in. All of which we are behind with TPTK and really poor equity vs a combo draw. Given the combinations, its likely we have two pair/set over combo draw and folding AK is probably the standard thing to do here unless we're playing a retard.

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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

3betting AK then folding to a shove wouldn't be a bad play here, given our range for shoving this is two pair, sets, AA, and the combo draw, with a random AK thrown in. All of which we are behind with TPTK and really poor equity vs a combo draw. Given the combinations, its likely we have two pair/set over combo draw and folding AK is probably the standard thing to do here unless we're playing a retard.

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lol? 3bet folding is a terrible play, if we have that little equity why are why 3betting??? If we can be shoving draws then 3bet/folding is just the worst play ever how can you not see that?