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Limper didnt seem like a great player (no stats) so i assume he is a bit passive in general. the PFRer was runnning about 13/11 over small sample, i knew nothing much out of the ordinary about him.
http://weaktight.com/237719
Hows my play or a explain if you would choose a different line.
Meh it works against LAGGs really well. W/o a read though I think it's kind of bad. I repop pre to 12 and play it aggressively. As played, I lead flop. As played, I raise flop. As played, I raise turn. As played, river shove is good.
I like every street.
Hope you cracked his AA/KK.
Looks all good to me.
are you guys serious about this line looking good? its so akward? either raise somewhere as played or 4bet pre. alot of times this is an iso raise by the button, not necessarily a strong play.
i think some of you miss that UTG has minraised prelfop so id be putting in a 4bet.
its awkward but playing it v aggro vs a tight player must be spew. right?
But if we raise somewhere, arent we really just raising 'to find out where we are'?
Ugh, I really don't see why you would want to 4-bet a 13/11's 3-bet. Yeah he's only 3-betting a min-raise but there's no way he does this wide.Quote:
Originally Posted by bode
if you choose not to 4-bet preflop then the turn is a pretty gross spot
I might just pitch the turn
i think coldcalling 3bets is a bad play in general because if we do this with big pairs then we can't 4bet bluff nearly as profitably against thinking opponents (which BTN may or may not be).
in a vacuum, i think your preflop line is okay. typically, and without reads, id think c/c flop c/f turn would be your best postflop line. however this particular turn card gives you several outs versus K-K+ so i need to do a little maths to see if your line is +EV...
This is your equity versus UTG, if his range is K-K+
Board: Td 5d 8s 9d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 21.591% 21.59% 00.00% 114 0.00 { QdQh }
Hand 1: 78.409% 78.41% 00.00% 414 0.00 { KK+ }
rough EV analysis: approx. $36 in pot, risk approx. $40 to win approx. $100. therefore you would need about 40% equity to make going all in on the turn +EV. clearly the BTN would have to have a high bluffing frequency in this spot for that to be +EV (math wise, about 20% of his range would have to be air).
i don't like check/calling the turn because villain is unlikely to felt a non diamond K-K/A-A if a 4th diamond hits. villain may pay off a straight, but i doubt he would do so 100% of the time.
therefore i'd check/fold the turn without additional reads.
note: adding AKdd to villains range reduces your equity by about 3%