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Opponent is unknown. Full buy and hasn't done anything retarded.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG petedpistol ($127.90)
UTG+1 RNiner R9 ($214.90)
CO WushuTM ($221.50)
BTN INTREPID FOX ($125.75)
SB YaDaDaMeeN21 ($224.35)
BB Hero ($200.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB :kd: :3d:
4 folds, YaDaDaMeeN21 raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: :kh: :jc: :8h: ($12, 2 players)
YaDaDaMeeN21 bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: :ks: ($28, 2 players)
YaDaDaMeeN21 bets $18, Hero calls $18

River: :qh: ($64, 2 players)
YaDaDaMeeN21 checks, Hero bets $30, YaDaDaMeeN21 raises to $90, Hero folds

Final Pot: $124

YaDaDaMeeN21 wins $181 ( won +$59 )
Hero lost -$62.00

Opponent is playing multiple tables with a rather high PFR. I got him at around 30% over a small sample size.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG sfr100nrv ($189.40)
UTG+1 krmont22 ($228.10)
CO eisberg1 ($105.70)
BTN Hybridskills ($215.70)
SB Hero ($265.60)
BB ddocky71 ($202.75)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is SB :6c: :5c:
1 fold, krmont22 raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $20, 1 fold, krmont22 calls $14

Flop: :2s: :4h: :td: ($42, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, krmont22 calls $30

Turn: :2h: ($102, 2 players)
Hero bets $75, krmont22 calls $75

River: :jd: ($252, 2 players)
Hero checks, krmont22 checks

Final Pot: $252
krmont22 shows: :th: :8h:
Hero shows: :6c: :5c:

krmont22 wins $249 ( won +$124 )
Hero lost -$125.00

This guy is pretty hyper-aggro too, but his PFR is more along the ballpark of 20%

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG asroy ($40.00)
UTG+1 TeamNabo ($471.80)
CO 0Human0 ($885.55)
BTN Hero ($215.35)
SB INTREPID FOX ($277.40)
BB mufasa36 ($203.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN :ad: :9d:
2 folds, 0Human0 raises to $6, Hero calls $6, 2 folds

Flop: :4s: :2d: :tc: ($15, 2 players)
0Human0 bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: :qd: ($39, 2 players)
0Human0 bets $27, Hero calls $27

River: :7h: ($93, 2 players)
0Human0 bets $60, Hero folds

Final Pot: $93

0Human0 wins $150 ( won +$45 )
Hero lost -$45.00

I dunno if you're looking for comments or what but I'll throw some out there...

Hand #1: I honestly don't like the river bet. I'm all for river value but I really don't think you're getting called by anything you beat at all.

Hand #2: Don't like the 3-bet unless you know he's calling to fold a lot post-flop. Definitely don't like the double barrel on that turn card. If I planned on double barreling almost any turn card depending on my read, I like to make my bet sizing smaller post-flop, keeps the bluff cheaper and I could have some FE on a decent river and fire the mighty 3rd barrel. Because I think that's the only thing that would make the 2nd barrel good was if you planned on firing a lot of rivers. Is that too spewy?

Hand #3: Do you ever consider raising him on the turn? Or is he like mindless spewy aggro?

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

Hand #1: I honestly don't like the river bet. I'm all for river value but I really don't think you're getting called by anything you beat at all.

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O RLY?

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

I like to make my bet sizing smaller post-flop, keeps the bluff cheaper and I could have some FE on a decent river and fire the mighty 3rd barrel. Because I think that's the only thing that would make the 2nd barrel good was if you planned on firing a lot of rivers. Is that too spewy?

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I like to make bets big enough to settle the matter in a street or two.

In my 100nl opinion.

Hand 1 I like it and would fold the river as played. I might even bet a little more on the river for value. Once you get check raised I'm done with the hand.


Hand 2 is good but I am not barreling the turn without a read that he peels a lot in 3 bet pots. I would probably check/fold it right there.

Hand 3 I would probably raise the turn. The queen is a card that he is probably firing a very large % of the time. We have good equity in the hand so I like bumping it up to 64. As played on the river its a fold.

galapagos as i was looking at the 2nd hand i was thinking pretty much what u said.

if u want to fire the turn u have to think about what your hand looks like to villain. i'll use this tactic often if i think my opponent wont expect me to fire a bluff on a card that didn't change the board. but also after he flat calls again on the turn, u have to think like ... what kind of hand can he possibly have? theres almost no way it's a strong one. a set is going to raise u at some point in order to balance his range. imo if u fire turn and he just flats, based on villains range and his perception of your range, river is necessary all in.

fwiw i think in general u arent raising enough and calling too much. it puts u in tough spots where u cant figure out what to do and allows u to get blown off the best hand fairly easily. (this could be totally wrong though, im just going off these three hands u posted).

seems like a pretty trivial fold

not easy, just trivial lol

edit : just saw there's a hand 2, nice fold, I understand why you want to call ( i think ) but I think a fold is good since AJ and AK can be value-bluffing you. I'd rather push than call.

edit 2 : so it looks like i m rly fkin drunk since I thought hand 3 was hand 2... Either way, hand 2 is fine, bluffing riv is super high variance, and he's probably playing 2 many tables to adjust accordingly, allowing you to get paid off later if you bluff this riv.

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

Hand #1: I honestly don't like the river bet. I'm all for river value but I really don't think you're getting called by anything you beat at all.

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O RLY?

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

I like to make my bet sizing smaller post-flop, keeps the bluff cheaper and I could have some FE on a decent river and fire the mighty 3rd barrel. Because I think that's the only thing that would make the 2nd barrel good was if you planned on firing a lot of rivers. Is that too spewy?

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I like to make bets big enough to settle the matter in a street or two.

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i completely agree with galapogos. when he bet 18 on the turn, it looks like a J or something similar. if the river was a blank there's value, but on that river ur behind his calling range. his screen name and stack and bet sizes look like an internet poster too, so he's prob not bad enough to c/c with Jx or worse.

and the 2nd one, betting around half pot on flop and turn is better, so you can still get him to fold on the river, since he's rarely folding when the 2 pairs. a big bet on that flop isn't as good since you should shut down unless a good scare card comes like A or K. maybe if it was A or K high, where he'd peel any pair then prob fold on the turn, it'd be better to bet big on the flop.

1. i kinda wanna check behind this river. I feel like his range to bet bet check is probably polar enough that the only thing that continues to your bet is better hands. If he had a good queen he'd probably c/c turn.

2. I don't like making such a small 3-bet oop with a hand i'd like to end preflop. You gave him odds to position rape you with pretty much any sc, pair, Axs or suited broadway. If you like making reraises this size i'd go with hands that hit more flops like J9s ATs etc. Postflop, i think your two barrel sucks without river threat. I think 28/58/shove is a little better. Also that duece is like his gincard if he has 99 or a weak ten, so i think i'd just c/f turn.

3. This hand seems fine. Raising the flop is an option. The only reason calling is really best is because your hand is probably best. If you put him on a tighter range and was just floating him, i think raising would be better since all you have is a tainted over and a backdoor nfd. You'd be able to b/c turns you improve.

hand 1: I agree with your value bet. You have trips and you never know what someone will call with. I also agree with your fold but i definitely think you need to bet.

Hand 2: I agree with Marshall in the fact that there is nothing wrong with occasionally double barreling a board that doesn't change the board. It makes your hand look very strong if you don't have a retarded bluffy image. its like standing pat in draw. shoving river is read dependent imo but the jack is a really bad card i think. 10J is a very likely 10 and JJ is a very likely overpair.

Hand 3: whatever i think you played it fine. i agree with not raising turn, because a raise would put almost half of our stack in the pot and if he is going to continue he is putting it all in on the turn i assume. so we either call off our stack with 18% equity maybe 24% if our ace is good. or we call with 18% equity with big implied odds of runner nut flush. I'd call. I would never just fold on the turn by the way is that bad?

definitely think turn is auto call w/ backdoor NFD ... implied odds are too high if u hit cuz its just not a hand villain is gonna wanna believe u r holding in that spot. although i would have raised the flop if i wanted to continue just cuz there really isnt a turn card that we are feeling that great about, we dont even feel that good about an ace since it could potentially make him 2 pr or a pr of aces w/ better kicker since we dont know where were at, plus the fact that hes likely not going to have much on a T42 board ... making any overcard or diamond a great spot for double barrel

My thoughts:

Hand 1: My defense here is kinda loose, but I'm not big into folding my BB to a SB steal 3+ handed unless I know the SB is a nit. Flop is an easy call. Turn I could go either way on. I called because I don't think he's really repping anything and I want to see what develops perhaps play some show & tell here. If I knew he was a 2+2er I'd probably crying call the river. Against random full-buy I have to give him credit for a big hand here.

Hand 2: Gosh he's raising a lot. I thought I'd play back at him light to test his resolve and set-up playing back at him strong later as I tend to get credit for a hand the first time or two around. Once we get there, pre-flop and the flop are standard. Turn I decided to double because that really was a blank looking flop, I had 4 very well hidden outs to pretty much the nuts here and just wasn't sold that he wasn't being stubborn. Once he calls the second shot, I was convinced he had a hand and surrendered. Wasn't sure if he was the type I could get off of one pair. Got good information (he will give crazy action), too bad it cost so much money.

Hand 3: Gosh he's raising a lot, I'm going to play my button and see where this goes. I probably should have just raised the flop, kinda wanted to see if he'd just fire again for future reference. Turn is at least a call, plan was to bet the river if checked to.

from my experience, yadadameen is kind of a nit, krmont is a total lagtard, and 0human0 is pretty solid, aggro.

i def think 0human0 is capable of triple barrel bluffing here in hand 3. that being said, would this be one of the scenarios where if you call the turn, you should call the river? i struggle with that concept when people say it.

btw i've never had yadadadadadadameeeen or whatever c/r me like this i don't think.

hand 3: soooo say we raise this flop, rather than float.
what does everyone do on a turn 9?
A?
diamond?
low blank?
broadway card?

honestly my opinion is that we check them all except maybe broadway cards, but convince me otherwise.

who are you on stars c-luvin?

edit: nevermind i know who you are.

edit: ok then

will: basically the reasoning for sometimes having to call the river if u call the turn is that if u r calling the turn to fold the river u r potentially losing a big pot. the thing is, u need to make your decision on the turn whether or not your hand is good. u arent going to get much more info by calling the turn against a good player who will triple barrel u when they think u cant stand the heat. i guess what i mean to say is u pay too much for info that might even be non-existent. the point is, u have to make your decision on the turn as to whether you believe your hand is good and are going with it to save yourself costly turn sized bets in big pots.

this wouldnt apply to the k3 hand since villain checked and we bet the river. completely different scenario.

lets talk about floating vs bluff raising the flop

which opponents do you use each on?

how do you play turns?

I'd say use the A9 hand as an example but just talk in general if you want.

hand 1: played well

hand 2: shove river after timing down really long

Hand 3: i like it cause i'm guessing you're planning to bet the river when checked to. He had a good hand.