Gina Carano WTF

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05-31-2008, 03:28 PM
spoonitnow

Gina Carano WTF

OH MY FUCKING GOD HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU NOT MAKE WEIGHT AT 140 WHEN THEY MADE UP THE WEIGHT CLASS FOR YOU JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

For those who are ill-informed or have no idea what I'm talking about, womens' MMA does not have a 140 pound weight class, only 135. EliteXC made up a 140 pound weight class for Gina Carano to fight at because she had so much trouble making weight at 135 and she is their poster girl to a large extent. For her fight this weekend, she missed making weight by ~4 pounds.

That is all.
05-31-2008, 04:53 PM
bigspenda73

preggerz?
05-31-2008, 05:06 PM
euphoricism

gina carano is such a fucking babe.
05-31-2008, 05:23 PM
b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad
05-31-2008, 05:25 PM
b-rabbit

she is kinda hot though
05-31-2008, 05:33 PM
mrhappy333

I didnt even know there was an MMA for women, WTF!!

links?
05-31-2008, 05:37 PM
mrhappy333

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1336/ginacaranovv7.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/133...d9e4d01905.jpg

wow, she's HOT!!
05-31-2008, 06:38 PM
wufwugy

its them fake titties
05-31-2008, 07:31 PM
a500lbgorilla

Shes attractive.
05-31-2008, 07:36 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad

by that logic so are women police officers and women soldiers

give me a fucking break
05-31-2008, 09:32 PM
frosst

i have a crush on crush
05-31-2008, 11:41 PM
wufwugy

i crush your crush with my crush soda
06-01-2008, 12:07 AM
bigspenda73

Watched the fights

meh

last fight HUDGE disappointment
06-01-2008, 09:44 AM
spoonitnow

Yeah Gary Shaw is now officially the Don King of MMA.
06-02-2008, 06:12 AM
vqc

carano is a black eye on MMA. I have plenty more respect for Kimbo than Gina.

As for Kyra. BJJ FTW.
06-02-2008, 07:57 AM
bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad

by that logic so are women police officers and women soldiers

give me a fucking break

this is not good logic. police officers and soldiers are providing a service, this chick is punching people in the face. it is pretty sad.
06-02-2008, 11:52 AM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad

by that logic so are women police officers and women soldiers

give me a fucking break

this is not good logic. police officers and soldiers are providing a service, this chick is punching people in the face. it is pretty sad.

By your logic all fighters should stop fighting.

Again, give me a fucking break.
06-02-2008, 11:59 AM
d0zer

spoon's got the rear naked choke around & locked in on his bicep...bode...tap FFS!
06-02-2008, 12:07 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by vqc

carano is a black eye on MMA. I have plenty more respect for Kimbo than Gina.

As for Kyra. BJJ FTW.

Agreed x3.

For spoony on Gina, see above.

Spoony on Kimbo: he's humble and doing what any of us would do in his situation. It's not his fault Gary Shaw is probably a fucktard.

Spoony on Kyra: for clarification, the above picture was Kyra Gracie, not Gina Carano. Enough said, plus she's pretty badass.
06-02-2008, 01:34 PM
bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad

by that logic so are women police officers and women soldiers

give me a fucking break

this is not good logic. police officers and soldiers are providing a service, this chick is punching people in the face. it is pretty sad.

By your logic all fighters should stop fighting.

Again, give me a fucking break.

i wasnt the one comparing them. i just personally find chicks that fight repulsing, even if she is pretty hot.
06-02-2008, 01:42 PM
dthorne04

elitexc is fucking awful.
06-02-2008, 02:16 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by bode

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by b-rabbit

women's mma = gross and sad

by that logic so are women police officers and women soldiers

give me a fucking break

this is not good logic. police officers and soldiers are providing a service, this chick is punching people in the face. it is pretty sad.

By your logic all fighters should stop fighting.

Again, give me a fucking break.

i wasnt the one comparing them. i just personally find chicks that fight repulsing, even if she is pretty hot.

That's exactly what I mean -- it's pretty fucked up to think that. It's like saying it's okay to have X profession as long as you are a male.

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Originally Posted by dthorne04

elitexc is fucking awful.

Now this is what I was talking about originally. Did you watch the press conference? LOLOLOL

Gary Shaw is like, "Yeah so Thompson had to be taken to the hospital because he was having problems breathing."

2 seconds later, Thompson walks in.

Then Shaw is all like "Uh so I guess he's okay."

Edit: WAR GSP
06-02-2008, 04:22 PM
bode

so is elitexc the one that was on saturday night? my brother-in-law was watching one with some guy that was called the new york bad ass or something and he got his ass beat in like 30 seconds. it was lolbad. i dont get into mma at all, but it looked more like wwf than mma.
06-02-2008, 05:00 PM
UG

I enjoyed it but I hated how it was 95% hype and only 5% actual fighting. I wish I would have DVR'ed it so I could fast forward through all of the fluff and get to the real stuff.

LOL at the "New York Badass."

Kimbo Slice is a true badass but he's not a good MMA guy yet. As a stand-up fighter he is awesome, but on the ground......well, you saw that.

And I would totally fuck the shit out of Gina Carano. I think it's messed up that this thread was posted in the first place.....she's 5-9 and she came in "overweight" at 144. Dude, she's a fighter and has muscles and stuff, and a really big rack too, give her a break.

My wife is 5-9 with a pretty kickass body and she weighs 140, but a fighter she is not.
06-02-2008, 05:29 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by UG

I enjoyed it but I hated how it was 95% hype and only 5% actual fighting. I wish I would have DVR'ed it so I could fast forward through all of the fluff and get to the real stuff.

LOL at the "New York Badass."

Kimbo Slice is a true badass but he's not a good MMA guy yet. As a stand-up fighter he is awesome, but on the ground......well, you saw that.

And I would totally fuck the shit out of Gina Carano. I think it's messed up that this thread was posted in the first place.....she's 5-9 and she came in "overweight" at 144. Dude, she's a fighter and has muscles and stuff, and a really big rack too, give her a break.

My wife is 5-9 with a pretty kickass body and she weighs 140, but a fighter she is not.

It's her job to make weight, and it's VERY disrespectful to the promotion and especially to her opponent to not make weight, ESPECIALLY when the weight class was created specifically for her so that she wouldn't have to cut to 135.

If I missed weight by 4 pounds even just wrestling in high school, I would have been in a world of shit. I wrestled at 135 and 140 and walked around at 150ish.

Missing by 4 pounds at a 140 pound weight class is the equivalent of saying "Fuck you, I'm not even going to try, and there's not shit any of you can do about it."

On Phil Baroni, he has one of the nicknames that I absolutely hate ("New York Badass").
06-02-2008, 05:30 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by bode

so is elitexc the one that was on saturday night? my brother-in-law was watching one with some guy that was called the new york bad ass or something and he got his ass beat in like 30 seconds. it was lolbad. i dont get into mma at all, but it looked more like wwf than mma.

Yes, that's why this promotion EliteXC is so bad.
06-02-2008, 05:44 PM
mrhappy333

Tanya Harding FTW!!
06-02-2008, 06:21 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by mrhappy333

Tanya Harding FTW!!

What?
06-02-2008, 06:30 PM
will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

That's exactly what I mean -- it's pretty fucked up to think that. It's like saying it's okay to have X profession as long as you are a male.

haha, when did you join the feminist movement?
06-02-2008, 06:42 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

That's exactly what I mean -- it's pretty fucked up to think that. It's like saying it's okay to have X profession as long as you are a male.

haha, when did you join the feminist movement?

There's nothing feminist about it, I'm just anti-dumbass.
06-02-2008, 08:43 PM
will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

That's exactly what I mean -- it's pretty fucked up to think that. It's like saying it's okay to have X profession as long as you are a male.

haha, when did you join the feminist movement?

There's nothing feminist about it, I'm just anti-dumbass.

by your logic, it isnt okay for a girl to say that male wwf wrestlers are gross?
06-02-2008, 09:04 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by will641

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

That's exactly what I mean -- it's pretty fucked up to think that. It's like saying it's okay to have X profession as long as you are a male.

haha, when did you join the feminist movement?

There's nothing feminist about it, I'm just anti-dumbass.

by your logic, it isnt okay for a girl to say that male wwf wrestlers are gross?

What? You seriously confused me here as to where you're going with this.

The main problem I have is the reasons behind comments about women's MMA being fucked up but men's MMA being okay.

If you don't like either, that's cool with me, but the above is pretty fucked up.
06-02-2008, 11:49 PM
will641

so am i wrong to say that nba is good, but wnba sucks ass?
06-03-2008, 12:05 AM
EzDuzIt

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Originally Posted by will641

so am i wrong to say that nba is good, but wnba sucks ass?

absolutely not. i have a personal pledge to myself that i will never watch more than 10 seconds of girls basketball. if i flip onto it on tv i have 10 seconds to get that shit off. if i dont have control of it im leaving the room.
06-03-2008, 12:47 AM
bigspenda73

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Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

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Originally Posted by will641

so am i wrong to say that nba is good, but wnba sucks ass?

absolutely not. i have a personal pledge to myself that i will never watch more than 10 seconds of girls basketball. if i flip onto it on tv i have 10 seconds to get that shit off. if i dont have control of it im leaving the room.

how about 25 seconds?

Quality sucks: http://youtube.com/watch?v=q29p23Dqqko
06-03-2008, 01:30 AM
will641

thats a man!

girls bball can be fun to watch, like in high school when your team is good, but even still, its not 1/10 as fun to watch when the boys team is good.
06-03-2008, 01:48 AM
UG

I hear you spoon, but fucking christ she is 144 and 5-9 and a fucking badass. You settled it for me by saying that you, a man, used to wrestle at 135........so yeah.

Like I said, my wife looks badass at about 145 and 5-9 but an ultimate fighter she is not.

I understand that she had to make weight or whatever, that she knew she had to make it and didn't, but this isn't the only thing she does and she's pretty honest about that.
06-03-2008, 01:51 AM
UG

also if she didn't back her shit up then I would have hated on her, but goddamn she beat the shit out of her opponent
06-03-2008, 11:32 AM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by UG

I hear you spoon, but fucking christ she is 144 and 5-9 and a fucking badass. You settled it for me by saying that you, a man, used to wrestle at 135........so yeah.

Like I said, my wife looks badass at about 145 and 5-9 but an ultimate fighter she is not.

I understand that she had to make weight or whatever, that she knew she had to make it and didn't, but this isn't the only thing she does and she's pretty honest about that.

I settled it by saying that me, a man, used to wrestle at 135.... after regularly cutting 15-20 pounds? But yet a professional athlete can't do this? Why yes, I believe I did.

Regardless, this has nothing to do with how she looks or whether or not this is the only thing she has going for her in her life. She had a responsibility, and she didn't take care of it, and in the process she disrespected a fuckton of people.
06-03-2008, 05:33 PM
mrhappy333

UG waiting for pics of Bad Ass wife..
06-06-2008, 11:03 PM
FyrFytr998

A day late and a dollar short, but whatever, I'm at the mercy of an internet firewall at work where I do 90% of my posting.

So MMA has this grand chance to show the general public what a honorable, legitimate, professional sport it can be. And Gary Shaw decides to go WWE on the fans asses. I'm not saying that the UFC's TUF is any better, but their main card PPV's are lightyears ahead of that shit EliteXC put out.

Gina is too caught up in the "Hollywood" world right now. If anything, she should call MMA her hobby now. Either way, a poke in the eye to Scott Smith gave her fight of the night in my opinion.

Kimbo is deadmeat against most HW's with a ground game. Shit....Lesnar can probably whoop his ass! No fucking way Kimbo stops his take down. Mir couldn't even stop the takedown. Big Nog and the others? I won't even disgrace their names comparing them to Kimbo. I like the character they created in KImbo, but the fighter has a lot left to be desired.

Watching Lawler and Smith confirms Anderson Silva is the best 185'er in the universe. Entertaining fight, but if Lawler can't put away a TUF cast off....well I'm just saying.

There really shouldn't be as much hate thrown Kimbo's way I guess. I mean he's only taking what they're giving him. He's smart enough to know that he needs to cash in fast before a legit HW crushes him. Unfortunately, after they way Shaw promoted that show, and the fact that Shaw will go back to having him fight cans. Kimbo's popularity will inevitably turn on a down Swing. Tank Abbott anyone? Tank had the same Kimbo hype back in the day and the UFC whored him too, until it had legit HW's to whoop his ass. I think Kimbo's smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I don't question his heart at all, I'm sure he'd fight anyone regardless, but how long before shoe drops?

If anyone cared, the very next day. The WEC put on a very god card on the Versus channel here in the Northeast. That is what the public should have witnessed. Faber vs. Pulver was an instant classic.
06-06-2008, 11:16 PM
spoonitnow

Yeah I agree with most of that.

lol caranoaments

I think Kimbo is in a weird position himself, and you can't really say that it's his fault all of this is going on, though it is fairly ridiculous how the Shawathon is going, but that's life. It's not fair that because of the Shawathon hype that he's being somehow compared to top heavyweights and all that. I mean his fight against JT was what, his third or fourth fight? Unfortunately for him, his progress as a fighter seems to be at odds with the promotional aspect of the situation. In any event, I think in a few years he'll be in some sort of proximity to being a top 25 HW, but he's still new to the sport.
06-07-2008, 09:05 AM
mrhappy333

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Yeah I agree with most of that.

lol caranoaments

I think Kimbo is in a weird position himself, and you can't really say that it's his fault all of this is going on, though it is fairly ridiculous how the Shawathon is going, but that's life. It's not fair that because of the Shawathon hype that he's being somehow compared to top heavyweights and all that. I mean his fight against JT was what, his third or fourth fight? Unfortunately for him, his progress as a fighter seems to be at odds with the promotional aspect of the situation. In any event, I think in a few years he'll be in some sort of proximity to being a top 25 HW, but he's still new to the sport.

FyrFyter, try www.vtunnel.com
It bypasses the Firewall @ one of the places I work at. And I can visit FTR!!
06-08-2008, 02:06 AM
FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Yeah I agree with most of that.

lol caranoaments

I think Kimbo is in a weird position himself, and you can't really say that it's his fault all of this is going on, though it is fairly ridiculous how the Shawathon is going, but that's life. It's not fair that because of the Shawathon hype that he's being somehow compared to top heavyweights and all that. I mean his fight against JT was what, his third or fourth fight? Unfortunately for him, his progress as a fighter seems to be at odds with the promotional aspect of the situation. In any event, I think in a few years he'll be in some sort of proximity to being a top 25 HW, but he's still new to the sport.

Exactly! For Kimbo though, his star will wane before he becomes legit due to the fact that:

A- He'll continue to fight cans and pad a record real MMA fans will come to despise.

or

B- He'll say fuck it. Fight legit fighters and lose. Thus becoming the next Tank Abbott who only wins with a punchers chance.

For Kimbo, time is not on his side.

Thanks for the link Happy.
06-08-2008, 02:18 AM
bigspenda73

how old is Kimbo really, like 40?
06-08-2008, 08:02 AM
vqc

What kimbo has on his side is that he trains with Bas. Bas has said many a time that Kimbo actually cares about training and dedicates himself to it. Can't say the same thing about Tank.
06-08-2008, 09:51 AM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by vqc

What kimbo has on his side is that he trains with Bas. Bas has said many a time that Kimbo actually cares about training and dedicates himself to it. Can't say the same thing about Tank.

This.

And I'm pretty sure Kimbo is in his late 30s.
06-08-2008, 12:36 PM
FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by vqc

What kimbo has on his side is that he trains with Bas. Bas has said many a time that Kimbo actually cares about training and dedicates himself to it. Can't say the same thing about Tank.

Bas is a great trainer, but a legit take down defense for him is still a few years off. He's 34, Antonio Silva is only 29 and has had a ground game since birth (Brazilian Birthright, lol.), lol. So Elite's HW future resides in Antonio's lap once Shaw figures a way to promote him.

By the way V Tunnel FTW!! Take that Mr. IT guy, lol.
06-08-2008, 12:42 PM
jyms

Kimbo better get his money while he can. He will never be what they are making him out to be.
06-08-2008, 01:45 PM
spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by vqc

What kimbo has on his side is that he trains with Bas. Bas has said many a time that Kimbo actually cares about training and dedicates himself to it. Can't say the same thing about Tank.

Bas is a great trainer, but a legit take down defense for him is still a few years off. He's 34, Antonio Silva is only 29 and has had a ground game since birth (Brazilian Birthright, lol.), lol. So Elite's HW future resides in Antonio's lap once Shaw figures a way to promote him.

By the way V Tunnel FTW!! Take that Mr. IT guy, lol.

It doesn't take years to learn how to sprawl.
06-09-2008, 12:48 AM
FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by vqc

What kimbo has on his side is that he trains with Bas. Bas has said many a time that Kimbo actually cares about training and dedicates himself to it. Can't say the same thing about Tank.

Bas is a great trainer, but a legit take down defense for him is still a few years off. He's 34, Antonio Silva is only 29 and has had a ground game since birth (Brazilian Birthright, lol.), lol. So Elite's HW future resides in Antonio's lap once Shaw figures a way to promote him.

By the way V Tunnel FTW!! Take that Mr. IT guy, lol.

It doesn't take years to learn how to sprawl.

But it does take time to know how to utilize it effectively. Especially if you're going against a skilled grappler who has ways to negate the sprawl. Call it how you want. I say Kimbo is at least 2 years off from knowing how to effectively sprawl to compliment his striking like Liddell does. And Liddell was a collegiate level wrestler long before he became a super striker.
06-09-2008, 01:34 AM
Fnord

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

It doesn't take years to learn how to sprawl.

Then why is it that all but the top two tiers of UFC fighters seem to get taken down at will against a good BJJ or Wrestler?

I'm really impressed when I see guys like Rampage, Chuck, GSP, Franklin, etc. just not get taken down unless they get reversed from top or stunned.
06-09-2008, 11:33 PM
FyrFytr998

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Originally Posted by Fnord

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Originally Posted by spoonitnow

It doesn't take years to learn how to sprawl.

Then why is it that all but the top two tiers of UFC fighters seem to get taken down at will against a good BJJ or Wrestler?

I'm really impressed when I see guys like Rampage, Chuck, GSP, Franklin, etc. just not get taken down unless they get reversed from top or stunned.

Nog is a perfect example. He and Sylvia are banging away. Sylvia got a pretty good sprawl. So Nog makes Tim think he's abandoned the TD and bingo Tim gets put on his back and submitted. Nog took alot of punishment to get to that point, but once Sylvia was down it was all but over.

Kimbo is so aggressive with the striking right now he leaves himself open to even sub par grapplers. All a person needs with Kimbo is a halfway decent chin to weather the storm and a legit submission game. I doubt some ground and pound will take Kimbo out unless he's completely gassed.
06-11-2008, 10:47 PM
FyrFytr998

Whoops. VTunnel is blocked also under the proxies category.

Anybody know how to get around the Barracuda web filtering program?

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