QQ played passive

This guys a 20/18 multitablin reg. I'd been 3 betting him light in previous pots on a different table on which i stacked him. So i wasnt quite sure how to read into this 4 bet. I think i played this poorly, Should i have pushed pre? b/f flop, c/f, or c/c ? Be brutal in your advice..i need it.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($11.65)
Hero ($16.95)
UTG ($24.80)
MP ($10.70)
CO ($16.20)
Button ($7.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.3, MP raises to $4.05, Hero calls $2.45.

Flop: ($7.85) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $7.05 (All-In), Hero ?

Just push preflop, if you're not deep there's really no reason to be calling 4-bets at these levels. You definitely didn't call to fold on this flop either right? If you think his 4-bet means business you should be folding preflop, not to see the best flop ever that doesn't have a Q and then fold.

As played I agree definately call.

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

Just push preflop, if you're not deep there's really no reason to be calling 4-bets at these levels. You definitely didn't call to fold on this flop either right? If you think his 4-bet means business you should be folding preflop, not to see the best flop ever that doesn't have a Q and then fold.

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Could you expand a bit more on pushing preflop versus calling and folding on A/K flops (and stacking of on non A/K of course)?

(I often see myself doing the latter against 3-bets from nits at micro stakes, which probably is representative for villains 4-bet range in this hand)

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Originally Posted by minSim

As played I agree definately call.

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Originally Posted by Galapogos

Just push preflop, if you're not deep there's really no reason to be calling 4-bets at these levels. You definitely didn't call to fold on this flop either right? If you think his 4-bet means business you should be folding preflop, not to see the best flop ever that doesn't have a Q and then fold.

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Could you expand a bit more on pushing preflop versus calling and folding on A/K flops (and stacking of on non A/K of course)?

(I often see myself doing the latter against 3-bets from nits at micro stakes, which probably is representative for villains 4-bet range in this hand)

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Calling a nit's 3-bet preflop with QQ is fine, but when you call a 4-bet you've put so much in the pot. If you're afraid you're behind AA-KK, you're still behind AA-KK on a low flop. If you're up against AK, you're flipping with a slight edge, so it's not a losing play to get in preflop against it.

When you call the 4-bet to fold to an A or K flop, if he was 4-bet bluffing (however unlikely it is at these stakes) you're folding the best hand. Also, if you're up against JJ maybe even TT, you're going to lose your action when you should have been stacking him by getting it in preflop.

yes push preflop, as played snap-call the flop shove, what are you afraid of?

The only reason I can see flatting preflop is to get it all in on non A/K flops.

You can't fold now, that's for sure!

If you think somehow he's a super nit with his 4-betting range then fold PF. If not, then push PF or call this flop for sure.

I just ship this in preflop so fast....

With the line you took I call this instantly. If you have been 3-betting him light I would push preflop.

yeah pretty much whats been said, shove pre, snap flop as played.