Goofy situation vs. short stack

Sorry for lack of hand history - the hand converter just turns this into limit so I gave up on it. Situation: .25/.50 pot limit hold 'em. I am the button with more than a full stack and have everyone covered. I am dealt :Ad: :Jd:. The blinds post, UTG who has been sitting out posts and then checks, UTG+1 limps, CO folds. I raise to 2.50. Everyone folds to UTG+1, who re-raises to 7.50. He has just 8.00 behind. I push.

No read on the short stack at all. What do you think his hand range is, and is this alright? I guessed that his range was kind of weird - a lot of pocket pairs, probably, and not sure what else.

I push as well. Indeed lots of PP's, which you are flipping with so it's +EV given the pot-stack ratio. If he's got anything else your equity goes way up.

standard, nh

Yeah its fine. Getting it in with a bad shorty preflop with a semi wide range is not usually going to be bad. Especially when he's got so little behind like here.

I have a question..

Are we assuming that most shorties are donks? I thought that proper short stack strategy was supposed to run super taggy--fold everything but try to get it all in with premium hands.

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Originally Posted by Juked07

I have a question..

Are we assuming that most shorties are donks? I thought that proper short stack strategy was supposed to run super taggy--fold everything but try to get it all in with premium hands.

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That is indeed proper short stack strategy, but most of them don't play it. Short stacks are generally awful at lower stakes.

Results: shorty had slightly better than I thought (JJ) but I spiked an ace on him anyway. (Gotta love his preflop action with that hand.)

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Originally Posted by dalecooper

(Gotta love his preflop action with that hand.)

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JJ is a little weak for it, but I don't hate it.

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Originally Posted by Fnord

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Originally Posted by dalecooper

(Gotta love his preflop action with that hand.)

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JJ is a little weak for it, but I don't hate it.

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I could see it at a more aggro table (especially with QQ+) but this table was full of stations and weak/passives, and me - and I had just joined the table. Under the circumstances it seemed like he was turning his JJ into 22.

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Originally Posted by Juked07

I have a question..

Are we assuming that most shorties are donks? I thought that proper short stack strategy was supposed to run super taggy--fold everything but try to get it all in with premium hands.

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yes, the large majority of shorties are terrible. also, folding all but premiums is not proper short strategy.