Need Value Deep 200NL

Unknown villain.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($144.90)
CO ($243.35)
Button ($423.25)
SB ($71.50)
BB ($200)
UTG ($166.20)
UTG+1 ($198)
Hero ($446.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds.

Flop: ($19) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $14, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button raises to $105, Hero

push, or call then take the big risk of checking the river

call, fake block/3bet blank rivers, bet big on non-blank rivers.

call/ c/r all in on river or as nuts says

I would call and bet $120 on the river. I'd really really hate to miss a bet in this big of a pot against a total unknown.

I called. I didn't really like the river if he has just a naked 7.

River 10c (pot $257 and $300 effective)

Hero...

id check here if i believe my opponent has to bet to win the pot

That river will frezze QQ+, so you MUST bet.

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Originally Posted by Fnord

That river will frezze QQ+, so you MUST bet.

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I agree with fnord on this river. I think villain has QQ+ or a 7 here and would have bet the river if checked to on a non-club board.

Fnord: I doubt villain raises turn with QQ+ here and is likely to do that on flop because of the draw. Villain either has air or the 7 here a lot and on a non club board check/shove will get us a lot more money in the long run than 'settling' for $120.

So I'm a pretty sick and twisted man to play AA/KK like this?

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I called. I didn't really like the river if he has just a naked 7.

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for this reason, shouldn't we be 3 betting the turn? It makes us look like we have QQ+ and he can stack us.

How many unpaired 7x hands to people tend to play in that game? We don't have a fish read and his stack size is a little interesting as he either played some big pots recently or has been at the table for a while.

I'm thinking QQ+/77/22/CrubFrushDraw/A7s/76s/78s Maybe some wild bluffs in there or a weird 7x hand. None of those are a clear fit other than 77/22/bluff, but we can't rule them out given the lack of information on our opponent.

Always listen to Nutsinho

fnord hes like infinity more likely to have 7x than qq+. Also 3betting turn is bad vs a solid player because they would not want to felt 76s/87s this deep in this fashion. the call and donk is going to make him love his 7x if the river is a blank though.

But the river made a flush