Unconventional hands 2

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03-19-2008, 04:30 PM
dev

Unconventional hands 2

Hand 4)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

SB ($23.95)
BB ($11.45)
UTG ($25.10)
UTG+1 ($11.75)
Hero ($30.75)
MP2 ($39.65)
CO ($24.90)
Button ($10.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ac.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ah.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 5 folds, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.85) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9s.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.5, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($7.85) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/6d.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $7.5, UTG calls $7.50.

River: ($22.85) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8d.gif (2 players)
UTG bets $13.85 (All-In), Hero calls $13.85.

Final Pot: $50.55
took me a full minute to call that river

Hand 5)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($25.05)
SB ($37.45)
BB ($38.45)
UTG ($38.65)
UTG+1 ($1.90)
MP1 ($25.25)
MP2 ($14.65)
MP3 ($9.75)
CO ($20.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8s.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7s.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/7c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/4h.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ks.gif (8 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.75, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($5) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/js.gif (4 players)
UTG folds, MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4.

River: ($13) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/9h.gif (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $8.5

Normally I raise this pre, but with a super-shorty in there and another semi-short stack I just limped behind. Odds on the flop were too good to give up. Middle pair probably isn't good there, but I can hit a fairly safe 2p or trips or back into a flush.

Hand 6)
V is 44/0/1/48
PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($15)
Button ($32.60)
SB ($18.25)
BB ($10)
UTG ($47.25)
UTG+1 ($13.55)
Hero ($25)
MP2 ($13.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, 3 folds, SB calls $1, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.70) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, SB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.20) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $17.20
03-19-2008, 05:47 PM
spoonitnow

Hand 4: I don't bet the turn quite as hard, maybe $5.50-$6.00. The idea is that it makes it a little more attractive for flush draws to call (while still getting pretty bad odds) but it's also easier for me to get away on the river when a spade (or in this case an 8) falls. As played I could probably find a fold on the river, but it's not horrible to call imo.

Hand 5: With this many limpers and the best position you should just [usually] limp behind as well. Good call on the flop, but I probably check the turn since against three villains we don't have much fold equity. As played, the river bluff is likely profitable.

Hand 6: I totally didn't see this hand a few minutes ago. XTR has already hit it below, though.
03-19-2008, 05:55 PM
XTR1000

#4 We beat nothing but missed spades and his range has a ton of hands that beat us beside that. I fold and feel bad about it.

#5 spoon said it

#6 I fold. He´s not bluffing near enough to make this call profitable.
03-20-2008, 01:29 AM
dev

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Hand 4: I don't bet the turn quite as hard, maybe $5.50-$6.00. The idea is that it makes it a little more attractive for flush draws to call (while still getting pretty bad odds) but it's also easier for me to get away on the river when a spade (or in this case an 8) falls. As played I could probably find a fold on the river, but it's not horrible to call imo.

Hand 5: With this many limpers and the best position you should just [usually] limp behind as well. Good call on the flop, but I probably check the turn since against three villains we don't have much fold equity. As played, the river bluff is likely profitable.

Hand 6: I totally didn't see this hand a few minutes ago. XTR has already hit it below, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by "XTR1000

#4 We beat nothing but missed spades and his range has a ton of hands that beat us beside that. I fold and feel bad about it.

#5 spoon said it

#6 I fold. He´s not bluffing near enough to make this call profitable.

I do tend to make a lot of thin calls on the river. When a hand doesn't make sense to me I usually try to find a way to call it.

#4 I like the betting advice, spoon. Looking back at the HH now, I think it's a bad call on the river without some kind of read on V. I got lucky, the guy limp/called JJ from UTG and flatted to the river, then makes a bluff on a really obvious scare card.

#5 I took it down, I just didn't see anything too powerful in V's range. I'm going back and forth about whether to raise in these situations now, because I've always tended toward trying to make a pot heads up. I take so many down without a showdown that I always figure I'm basically playing preflop to set up a c-bet to take down the pot rather than to build a pot with a better hand. I think I'll save some similar HHs and start a thread on it.

#6 Spoon, I accidentally posted the topic without it and added it a few minutes later.
This is a case where the bet didn't make any sense to me, and the flush draw was huge here, so I kind of talked myself into calling it. I figured he probably missed a flush draw. he had 8d7d, so he turned a straight draw probably intending to c/r, but I disappointed him and instead he went in after the river bricked.