Help with 4bet hand!

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03-13-2008, 03:19 AM
ZwiFT

Help with 4bet hand!

Please help me with this hand!

200 hands player is 31/24, altho i think he is very solid. His 3betting range is very wide, i would say any SC, pair, monsters etc. But i think his 4bet calling range is narrowed down to JJ+AQs+ maybe not AQs..

Just that he checks the flop makes me wonder here.. I ran his 4bet calling range in pokerstove and found out that i have 30% equity.

Is this spot a c/f?

Or am i beeing retarded here?

***** Hand History for Game 6870370262 *****
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, March 13, 02:59:07 ET 2008
Table Table 125542 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: bengaldude ( $65.36 USD )
Seat 4: Moneystream ( $207.34 USD )
Seat 1: UgotFelted80 ( $110.36 USD )
Seat 2: AHAXEPA ( $19 USD )
Seat 5: termin711 ( $96 USD )
termin711 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
UgotFelted80 posts big blind [$1 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Moneystream [ Kd Kh ]
>You have options at Table 126880 (No DP) Table!.
AHAXEPA folds
bengaldude folds
Moneystream raises [$4 USD]
BombaTTo has joined the table.
termin711 raises [$13.50 USD]
UgotFelted80 folds
Moneystream raises [$40 USD]
termin711 calls [$30 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Qc, 4d ]
>You have options at Table 125541 Table!.
termin711 checks
>You have options at Table 126880 (No DP) Table!.
Moneystream bets [$55 USD]
termin711 is all-In [$52 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
03-13-2008, 03:38 AM
ZwiFT

On the turn ofcourse
03-13-2008, 07:59 AM
pocketfours

Recheck your pstove results.
03-13-2008, 08:40 AM
bode

dont post results, and get it in with only 3/4 pot left.
03-13-2008, 10:28 AM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketfours

Recheck your pstove results.

I meant on the flop. Here i have only 30% equity
03-13-2008, 10:31 AM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode

dont post results, and get it in with only 3/4 pot left.

Tbh I think his range here is more QQ+,AKs, we havnt had history of me 4 betting him in the past, which leaves my equity to about 23%
03-13-2008, 10:44 AM
pocketfours

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketfours

Recheck your pstove results.

I meant on the flop. Here i have only 30% equity

Aha, so you don't include AKo in his range for some reason? Is that really what you want? Including AKo changes results drastically:

Hand 0: 30.853% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 69.147% { JJ+, AQs+ }

Hand 0: 41.120% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 58.880% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }
03-13-2008, 11:47 AM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketfours

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketfours

Recheck your pstove results.

I meant on the flop. Here i have only 30% equity

Aha, so you don't include AKo in his range for some reason? Is that really what you want? Including AKo changes results drastically:

Hand 0: 30.853% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 69.147% { JJ+, AQs+ }

Hand 0: 41.120% { KdKh }
Hand 1: 58.880% { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

Aha, my mistake.. So my equity here is actually 41% .. that's sick
03-13-2008, 05:17 PM
BigLRIP

So you are Moneystream eh? Was at like 3 of your tables the other day. Good to see another 100NL party player on these forums. Even though it kind of sucks you still have to stick it in with so little behind, especially if he can have AQ here.
03-13-2008, 05:58 PM
ZwiFT

Hey dude whats your nick? :D
03-13-2008, 06:36 PM
BigLRIP

nomuff_2tuff