Omaha is Serious Buisness
Just like the intertubes and I need to start treating it as such. This is my third operation thread and it's bullshit because I've been screwing around. I'm tired of seeing people progress and start making monies. There's no reason I shouldn't be also.
Problem #1 - I haven't played enough hands. I think I may have 100k hands lifetime, but that's spread over SnGs, 10NL FR games on the old Boss sites, etc. I think I have 10k hands at Omaha which is the first thing that's changing. I started a new database yesterday and starting over.
Some observations from yesterday:
1) Having the A of a potential flush draw is meaningless at microstakes. No one is folding a rag draw. Scrap this idea completely.
Closely related...
2) Don't try and bluff opponents off pots. It's impossible to tell what a random villain is c/c the flop with so just assume he likes his hand. I can likely take a couple cheep showdowns, get a read, then make better decisions.
related to #2
3) Many villains think a check behind turn, bet river line is a bluff and call with crap. Don't do this without a hand (or a read).
4) If the hand is HU going to the flop, villain is not necessarily scared of paired boards. Don't go crazy without a read.
5) I should not be afraid to c/f scare cards. Villains do not bluff a lot.
6) Don't haggle over small pots. If someone takes the lead and I completely whiffed, GTFO. I won't be giving up much.
Problems with my game:
a) Playing too many hands too aggressively. I've said this before, microstakes players do not start stacking off light just because I'm an agro maniac. They are inherently passive and I'm allowing them to play somewhat ideally. Also I'm so much looser that I'm often too far behind.
b) Double barreling with air. I took the "b/f is goot" idea too far. With position, be inclined to check behind turns and fold to a river lead. I'm often giving up ~6bb with this line which is fine. I am loosing too many 20-30bb pots.
c) BR. When I hit the downswing I had 10 buy-ins, which isn't adequate for HE, so why would it be good for Omaha.
d) Tilt. I'm a very calm reasonable person. I need to be very honest with myself. One issue has been my ISP which I think is fixed. Yesterday I lost a big pot on a paired river to a guy who called the turn with 4 pair against my obv straight. This steamed me a bit (mostly because I bet/called his min-raise), when that happens I need to take a break.
e) Table/seat selection. If there is a somewhat thinking player with position on me I will not stay at the table and try to outplay him. I'm trying to increase my BR and put in hands, not be proud at the table.
f) I need to think about my bet sizing, mostly pre. This will be another post.
I will post no stats (including bb/100) until I get to 10k hands.
I will not complain about downswings, I will not brag about upswings.
I will play all these hands at 25PLO.
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Re: Omaha is Serious Buisness
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I'm tired of seeing people progress and start making monies.
very bad thinking
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6) Don't haggle over small pots. If someone takes the lead and I completely whiffed, GTFO. I won't be giving up much.
good thinking
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d) Tilt. I'm a very calm reasonable person. I need to be very honest with myself. One issue has been my ISP which I think is fixed. Yesterday I lost a big pot on a paired river to a guy who called the turn with 4 pair against my obv straight. This steamed me a bit (mostly because I bet/called his min-raise), when that happens I need to take a break.
be brutally honest to yourself
you are your own worst enemey and also your own best friend
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e) Table/seat selection. If there is a somewhat thinking player with position on me I will not stay at the table and try to outplay him. I'm trying to increase my BR and put in hands, not be proud at the table.
good thinking
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I will not complain about downswings, I will not brag about upswings.
that's the spirit!
good luck!
Re: Omaha is Serious Buisness
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I'm tired of seeing people progress and start making monies. while I'm sitting here with a stagnant game/BR
very bad thinking
If my FMP doesn't help please explain.
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This is the shit I need to avoid. Standard cbet, but wtf am I doing. I have to push most turns having no idea where I stand. If he raises flop i let it go which is also meh. I should have c/c then see what he did on the turn. This would let me get away cheep (<10bb).
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($24.90)
Hero ($47.35)
UTG ($15.35)
MP ($30.90)
CO ($24)
Button ($20.20)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60.
Flop: ($1.80) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.75, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $4.25.
Turn: ($13.80) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $13.15,
Re: Omaha is Serious Buisness
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I'm tired of seeing people progress and start making monies. while I'm sitting here with a stagnant game/BR
very bad thinking
If my FMP doesn't help please explain.
Its your competitive spirit talking. While good in certain sports, it isn't optimal in poker.
You are prone to putting undue pressure on yourself and more bad things will follow
I don't know how else to explain it without getting all Buddhist-Monk like, but basically, its about worrying about your own path, just your own path and nothing else
I have no idea how I stumbled upon this, but I did and it proves true, at least for me ;)
Re: Omaha is Serious Buisness
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I'm tired of seeing people progress and start making monies. while I'm sitting here with a stagnant game/BR
very bad thinking
If my FMP doesn't help please explain.
Its your competitive spirit talking. While good in certain sports, it isn't optimal in poker.
You are prone to putting undue pressure on yourself and more bad things will follow
I don't know how else to explain it without getting all Buddhist-Monk like, but basically, its about worrying about your own path, just your own path and nothing else
I have no idea how I stumbled upon this, but I did and it proves true, at least for me ;)
I see your point. There's no reason to be competitive with other FTRs. I'd be happy if everyone was making money. I may be an internal competitive, me vs poker, or maybe even me vs myself (motivation). I've been waiting for it to come easily and it hasn't. =P
Wow, playing tight is actually kinda fun. I've started to enjoy folding and it's definitely the right decision for now. Key to this is "what is he betting" and except for cbets the answer at microstakes is very rarely "air". And like I said before there is no reason to haggle over small pots because there is a possibility he someone is betting air (or a weak foldable hand).
500 hands today over 2 1/2 hours or so. Break for bball, hopefully 500 more later.
