Help with a deepstack hand

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02-20-2008, 11:37 AM
ZwiFT

Help with a deepstack hand

both of my opponents are over 100BB deep. My opponents are 31/10/2 and 33/23/2.5 as in vpip/pfr/af

Is this +ev? Should i have checkraised instead? I cant really rely on hitting a pair here can i.. etc!

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Absolute-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($20.35)
SB ($0.90)
Hero ($26.05)
UTG ($20.25)
MP ($10.05)
CO ($2.62)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
UTG raises to $0.4, 2 folds, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, Hero raises to $2.1, UTG calls $1.70, Button calls $1.70, SB calls $0.50 (All-In).

Flop: ($7.20) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets 23.95 , UTG folds, Button bets $18.25 (All-In).

Turn: ($7.20) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($7.20) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

result hihi:
DRNOVI - Shows [Jd Js]
02-20-2008, 02:34 PM
Galapogos

When you make this bet you guarantee the only hand calling you is one that beats you.
02-20-2008, 03:13 PM
ZwiFT

Assume i was bluffing here, no outs. I would need the bluff to work 77% of the time to make it profitable. Well here i got atleast 12 outs if it doesnt pair the board.. is this a marginal mistake or is it a marginal +ev?

I know there is better ways to play this hand obviously.. I was just cought up in the moment
02-20-2008, 04:38 PM
microgrinder

While pushing is obviously +eV, I would say that C/Rai is quite a bit better here.
02-20-2008, 04:45 PM
Ash256

If you're going to panicshove on one of the best flops you could've hoped for, why did you 3bet this pre?
02-20-2008, 04:52 PM
gabe

you played it fine
02-20-2008, 05:26 PM
ZwiFT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash256

If you're going to panicshove on one of the best flops you could've hoped for, why did you 3bet this pre?

just wanted to build up a small pot and maybe narrow the field. And def cbet the flop almost nomather what came. Then this "huge" draw came and yeah as you said, panicshoved :)
02-20-2008, 05:40 PM
will641

god no. bet/call.
02-20-2008, 05:44 PM
sil693

Anybody else like a check/raise here? That's what I would go for.
02-20-2008, 05:56 PM
Marshall28

crai is good. anything is good here except check call or folding lol.
02-20-2008, 06:04 PM
ZwiFT

but check/shove is most ev u can get out of this?
02-20-2008, 06:25 PM
microgrinder

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

but check/shove is most ev u can get out of this?

IMO C/R is good because you gain a lot of value from people who try and semi bluff and an extra bet from mediocre hands that bet/fold. There's obv a trade-off with perhaps losing some fold equity or having it check around, but yea generally i preceive the C/R as having higher equity here.
02-20-2008, 06:41 PM
Ragnar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galapogos

When you make this bet you guarantee the only hand calling you is one that beats you.

Isn't Hero ahead of even the Set of Jacks on the flop with a FD and a and a Gutshot?
02-20-2008, 06:52 PM
microgrinder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnar4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galapogos

When you make this bet you guarantee the only hand calling you is one that beats you.

Isn't Hero ahead of even the Set of Jacks on the flop with a FD and a and a Gutshot?

Set of Jacks is significantly ahead. 2:1ish. He's ahead of 1 pair hands.
02-20-2008, 06:54 PM
ZwiFT

one thing is certain, the way i took def holds the biggest variance swongs