Huge hand vs passive, standard? check river?

I lose so much to these passive people.


PokerStars Game #15264394704: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2008/02/13 - 16:27:30 (ET)
Table 'Pandarus IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: chinbballgod ($10.63 in chips)
Seat 2: alberta74 ($2.98 in chips)
Seat 3: nietzsche69 ($11.33 in chips)
Seat 4: aristony ($5.77 in chips)
Seat 5: Ontario52 ($18.06 in chips)
Seat 6: hawk_bg ($9.95 in chips)
nietzsche69: posts small blind $0.02
aristony: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chinbballgod [4s 4d]
Ontario52: folds
hawk_bg: calls $0.05
chinbballgod: raises $0.15 to $0.20
alberta74: calls $0.20
nietzsche69: folds
aristony: folds
hawk_bg: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4h Jh]
chinbballgod: bets $0.40
alberta74: calls $0.40
*** TURN *** [Kc 4h Jh] [6h]
chinbballgod: bets $0.80
alberta74: calls $0.80
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h Jh 6h] [Ad]
chinbballgod: bets $1.50
alberta74: calls $1.50

weak fold against a taggfish, lose 200bb on a blank board? Ive, again, played pretty solid ><;; i cant imagine him not having a set here, usually folds to my cbets too.

PokerStars Game #15264374356: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2008/02/13 - 16:26:36 (ET)
Table 'Pandarus IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: chinbballgod ($11.33 in chips)
Seat 2: alberta74 ($3.68 in chips)
Seat 3: nietzsche69 ($9.98 in chips)
Seat 4: aristony ($5.77 in chips)
Seat 5: Ontario52 ($18.06 in chips)
Seat 6: hawk_bg ($10 in chips)
alberta74: posts small blind $0.02
nietzsche69: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to chinbballgod [Kd Ad]
aristony: folds
Ontario52: folds
hawk_bg: calls $0.05
chinbballgod: raises $0.15 to $0.20
alberta74: calls $0.18
nietzsche69: calls $0.15
hawk_bg: folds
*** FLOP *** [Tc As 3c]
alberta74: checks
nietzsche69: checks
chinbballgod: bets $0.50
alberta74: calls $0.50
nietzsche69: raises $9.28 to $9.78 and is all-in
chinbballgod: folds
alberta74: folds
nietzsche69 collected $2.05 from pot

1) Thumbs up, you played that good!

2) Ugh.. I think I fold there.

1) I'm not bothering to add up the pot size but as long as you potted 3 streets this is good.

2) I'm a station I'd never fold here and convince myself he's on a draw.

1) this is played well. its good to see you arent doing what a lot of players do with good hands vs. passive fish and go for a c/r.

2)why on earth would you assume he has a set here? TPTK is da nutz at 5nl. idk i mean you easily could be beat, i just dont give much respect to tomfoolery like that.

i would raise 4bb+1bb for each limper as a standard. might as well get more money in the pot when you have the best hand like 95% of the time.

hand 1 is fine. Bet slightly bigger on the turn and river, and raising slightly larger pre helps you make the pot much larger by the river.

hand 2: i dont mind it. with so little invested and 200bb deep this is ok. I wouldnt hate a call though really since it is 5nl.

in case anyone was wondering, the first hand where i had a set he turned the nut flush and he didnt even go all in with 5 cents left, but i guess seeing as how he was half stacked i played it correct?