Rant Complaints About Bad Opponents
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
I'm really getting tired of people bitching about how opponents call down with any two cards a lot of the time. Back when this happened at Party 25nl, they called it a fucking gold mine.
I added the bold for emphasis.
You guys need to understand something about poker. When some dumbass calls with a really loose range and hits his two pair or some shit to suck out on you, you're still making money if you're betting your hands correctly.
If your opponents are constantly playing worse starting hands than you and continuing on the flop with worse hands than you, then you should be making a killing in hold'em.
Jesus Christ, it's the same thing over and over. How do you beat guys who call down with middle pair all the time? YOU BET TOP PAIR HOLY SHIT WTF.
Stop bluffing calling stations, like seriously just fucking stop. It's fine to c-bet against most of these guys if you have some outs, but don't get pissed off when you get called.
But before you can stop bluffing calling stations, you've got to know who the calling stations are, so start paying more attention to wtf you're doing. If some guy calls three pot-sized bets with Q3 on a 3AK75 board, then making a fucking note about it and value bet the piss out of him from now on.
If some guys calls two bets with 55 on a KJ8 board and then shoves for like 4x the pot or some shit on the river 5, stop calling with KT and bitching about the guy catching a set on the river. If he does the same line over and over, THEN you should look him up with some top-pair type hands, but that requires a read, which goes back to what I just said about taking notes on what opponents do.
Here's the thing -- you suck at poker. Don't worry, I suck at poker too. The thing is, these guys probably suck worse than you. If you can figure out ways that they suck (ie they call down too loosely, play any two preflop, tip their monsters with huge bets, etc), take a note on that behavior, and then exploit the living shit out of it, then you make money because you're making their awesome Hoover-esque sucking power work for you.
If you aren't 100% sure how to bet your hands, how to give incorrect pot odds against draws, how to know if you're getting the right odds to call down with draws, or what sort of hands you should be playing preflop, then stop playing and start reading and studying and shit.
Get with some people who don't suck as bad as you do on AIM (see the little AIM buttons under peoples posts -- I'm on AIM like all the fucking time so talk to me if you want, I don't care, here's even what the damn button looks like so you'll know which one it is when you scroll all the way down http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...h/icon_aim.gif), or come to the Chat Room or the old IRC or send me a PM and we'll set up a time to talk on Ventrilo or some shit. Some people will tell you to fuck off because they're busy but fuck em, get to talking to someone else. Goddamn, just do something to help yourselves because this whole community is here to see you beat the shit out of people at poker and I keep seeing the same fucking questions over and over and over and over and over and fucking over 50 more fucking times.
So Chopper, Pythonic and myself are in the chat room like RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Get on it for real.
Re: Rant Complaints About Bad Opponents
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Get with some people who don't suck as bad as you do on AIM (see the little AIM buttons under peoples posts -- I'm on AIM like all the fucking time so talk to me if you want, I don't care, here's even what the damn button looks like so you'll know which one it is when you scroll all the way down
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...h/icon_aim.gif), or come to the Chat Room or the old IRC or send me a PM and we'll set up a time to talk on Ventrilo or some shit. Some people will tell you to fuck off because they're busy but fuck em, get to talking to someone else.
This doesn't always mean forever though. Sometimes people have bad days, or are really busy either playing for living or dealing with shit. Don't be sensitive just move on. Hell I have spent tons of time on AIM, MSN and vent talking about hands and shit, but sometimes I need to say fuck off as well.
Re: Rant Complaints About Bad Opponents
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Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Get with some people who don't suck as bad as you do on AIM (see the little AIM buttons under peoples posts -- I'm on AIM like all the fucking time so talk to me if you want, I don't care, here's even what the damn button looks like so you'll know which one it is when you scroll all the way down
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...h/icon_aim.gif), or come to the Chat Room or the old IRC or send me a PM and we'll set up a time to talk on Ventrilo or some shit. Some people will tell you to fuck off because they're busy but fuck em, get to talking to someone else.
This doesn't always mean forever though. Sometimes people have bad days, or are really busy either playing for living or dealing with shit. Don't be sensitive just move on. Hell I have spent tons of time on AIM, MSN and vent talking about hands and shit, but sometimes I need to say fuck off as well.
Yeah I was going to include something to this effect but forgot to.
