What do I have to do!!???

Maybe Im just not cut out for this shit.

What did i do wrong here??? Am i severely missing something? I go bust on hands like these all the time.



PokerStars (Cash Game): $0.10/$0.25 NL , 6 players
Thu Jan 17 04:10:23 NZDT 2008

PiS.Juliam ($16.60)
gotryerye ($7.45)
Aleeki ($23.90)
asianhybrid ($32.60)
MailmanMel ($28)
LokoIvan ($36.50)

LokoIvan is the button.

Precards:
PiS.Juliam posts the small blind $0.10, gotryerye posts the big blind $0.25.

Preflop: Aleeki is dealt 5d 6d (6 active)
Aleeki calls $0.25, asianhybrid folds, MailmanMel raises to $1, 3 folds, Aleeki calls $0.75.

Flop: 6c 3s Jd ($2.35, 2 active)
Aleeki checks, MailmanMel bets $1.25, Aleeki calls $1.25.

Turn: 6c 3s Jd 5s ($4.85, 2 active)
Aleeki checks, MailmanMel bets $2.50, Aleeki raises to $6.75, MailmanMel calls $4.25.

River: 6c 3s Jd 5s 4h ($18.35, 2 active)
Aleeki bets $14.90 (all-in), MailmanMel calls $14.90.

Final Pot: $45.80, $2.35 raked
Aleeki, net: -$23.90, Lost at showdown, has 5d 6d (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives)
MailmanMel, net: $21.90, Won at showdown, has Jh Jc (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
gotryerye, net: -$0.25, Folded Preflop
PiS.Juliam, net: -$0.10, Folded Preflop

Fold preflop both times, and probably just c/f the flop unless you have a good read on the guy (like does he always continuation bet the flop and check down from there if he didn't hit?). Even if we are ahead right now, we can't stand any pressure on later streets if he continues bluffing/semibluffing. We also need to consider the fact that he likely has 6 outs when we're ahead.

Suited connectors generally need position to be profitable, so look to play them on the button so it will be easier to draw and to steal.

yeah, I only play this hand when I'm the raiser preflop (and usually only in M/LP). I want the initiative with these hands in case we flop a board like this. The turn is basically killing you, although you should have never gotten there in the first place. and this is why...

1) don't play SCs utg
2) if you do (very occasionally), raise
3) don't call a pre-flop raise oop with SCs
4) there isn't a satisfactory way to play this post-flop as you're oop

I agree with all advice posted

something i havent seen mentioned yet is generally its not a good idea to open limp. Raise/fold is best option and raising SC's UTG is generally not a good idea as has already been stated.

Stop hunting, and start attacking.

You seem to have a lot of trouble folding PF... Not just this thread, but its a general theme. Its ok to fold.

I do fold quite a bit. Im generally a tight player 24% preflop? But maybe i have brain explosions like this hand.

The common trend i am seeing if that once i hit a hand i can't let it go.

Yes I agree i shouldn't have even seen the flop with this hand.

Why did I play it? I don't really know, i guess i was looking for some value out of it, but OOP this was the worst move.

I called the flop bet to try and float it and then once i hit my two pair i guess i thought i had struck gold.

Perhaps i am trying to play too fancy for my ability at the moment?

If i had played this in position and lets say he checked to me on the turn, i would have had to bet out wouldn't I? And lets say he just called, what do I do on the river? Bet/fold?

Should i be able to let go of two pair on the turn here?

I need to stop busting out on one hand after i have been playing solidly and taking small pots nicely throughout a session.

Its my post flop play that needs work, even though preflop I sucked here, I can get away with some mistakes preflop but its post flop where i am going bust.

Maybe its just the hands your posting, but it seems like once you've put money into the pot you have trouble letting it go.

limping UTG w/ a suited connector is pretty much a losing play for every player at every level, end of discussion.
dont float unless you have a reason to float. do you have 300 hands on this guy in PT saying he c-bets way too much? nope.
if you would have played this in position, here is how it woulda went down, you woulda raised on the button, he woulda 3-bet, you fold. if he didnt 3-bet you woulda c-bet the flop, he woulda check-raised, you fold. if he traps you, you got unlucky and you are stacking off when you hit 2-pair inevitably.

and btw, as for all the comments posted, you did not play this very badly and almost everyone would get stacked here w/ 2 pair. but this isnt the issue, you should be in this position very very seldom if you play correctly preflop. don't let this hand make you make huge laydowns, it is not viable at low stakes. you should no longer look for analysis using this hand, all you should take from here is you fucked up pf.

Thanks Bair - point taken and your right.

Also bjsaust - you are probably right too. I feel that once i have committed a fair amount of my chips (maybe half my stack or more) i may as well go all the way because I have two pair for example and may still be ahead and win the pot.

Now i presume this is the way to lose a lot of money!

ya once you get to the turn and hit gin you want all the money going in

postflop here is fine, preflop is not