qq button vs. bb w/ chatter

Just joined table and showed down AQ for a 30bb pot over q9, then raised from sb v. bb and had a split pot, next hand I am button with QQ

woulda made this easier if I 4bet but I had just sat down and had no clue about opponent

As the timer was halfway through and he said to me "fold" which usually to me means villain wants a call but who knows if I am actually beat.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($106.30)
Hero ($130.35)
SB ($163.05)
BB ($202.10)
UTG ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($24.50) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $17, BB raises to $54, Hero ??


Shove?

GAMB000000L!!!

Board: 4d 3h Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.809% 48.49% 01.32% 109458 2970.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 50.191% 48.88% 01.32% 110322 2970.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }


Board: 4d 3h Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.003% 30.73% 02.27% 40158 2970.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 66.997% 64.72% 02.27% 84582 2970.00 { TT+ }

There's no way he's c/r with AKs or AKo of here given stack sizes

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Originally Posted by PokerMuzz

There's no way he's c/r with AKs or AKo of here given stack sizes

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why?

ez fold given chat

instafold given stack sizes and chat

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Originally Posted by PokerMuzz

There's no way he's c/r with AKs or AKo of here given stack sizes

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Nice analysis, yeah i fold too.

so what do you guys do with AK here? bet/fold always? that's super exploitable on a board this dry when a strong lead is likely to get looked up. I c/r AK a bunch here and they usually fold.

say i had AKs with a backdoor flush draw. I would often c/r small to like 44, folding to a push. If the turn gives me a pair, gutshot, or flush draw, im all in. I would be taking exactly the same line with AA, KK, and TT about 40-50% of the time i had them, except obviously calling a flop push.

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

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Originally Posted by PokerMuzz

There's no way he's c/r with AKs or AKo of here given stack sizes

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why?

ez fold given chat

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He doesn't make the c/r this big with AKo/AKs

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

so what do you guys do with AK here? bet/fold always? that's super exploitable on a board this dry when a strong lead is likely to get looked up. I c/r AK a bunch here and they usually fold.

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Good point. I always put them on AK and get shown a good hand.

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Originally Posted by nutsinho

say i had AKs with a backdoor flush draw. I would often c/r small to like 44, folding to a push. If the turn gives me a pair, gutshot, or flush draw, im all in. I would be taking exactly the same line with AA, KK, and TT about 40-50% of the time i had them, except obviously calling a flop push.

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i think thats an awesome line, except most ppl (especially 100nl) don't do it.

The chat really got me to fold, but I wondered... I did see him raise flops with air later but the stack size analysis probably hits it.

I did observe players on Sat stacking off with complete air, and vs. those players I had to stack off light... the weekend warriors are hard to put on hands ;p