QQ but don't feel comfortable

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12-18-2007, 08:26 AM
mike2405

QQ but don't feel comfortable

Button Fuava ($129.80)
SB RoyalTribun ($21.00)
BB odlan ($101.80)
UTG SweGro ($96.50)
UTG+1 ddadkhdvrhfwkvl ($63.84)
CO Hero ($111.40)

Preflop: Hero is in the CO with :qc: :qs:

SweGro raises to 2.00, 1 fold, Hero raises to 6.00, 2 folds, odlan calls 5.00, SweGro calls 4.00.

Flop (18.50) :4s: :6s: :Th:
odlan checks, SweGro checks, Hero bets 14.00, odlan calls 14.00, 1 fold.

Turn (46.50) :Jc:
odlan bets 21.00, Hero???

Villain is a 17/9/2. Pretty standard, but with this bet I don't there is much I am beating is there?
12-18-2007, 08:51 AM
gabe

yea id fold, all signs point to him having you beat

i wouldnt fold aces though
12-18-2007, 09:11 AM
minSim

Because UTG's preflop minraise, BB could have called for set value, maybe even some SC's or high cards. I really doubt he's calling flop and leading the turn often enough with a worse hand though (there aren't many). I fold.
12-18-2007, 11:17 AM
Deanglow

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Originally Posted by gabe

yea id fold, all signs point to him having you beat

i wouldnt fold aces though

What's the difference between QQ and AA?
12-18-2007, 11:55 AM
sauce123

yea i guess we muck here
12-18-2007, 01:22 PM
griffey24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

yea id fold, all signs point to him having you beat

i wouldnt fold aces though

What's the difference between QQ and AA?

Yah I was gonna ask the same thing, they are like the same hand in this spot.

Unless we somehow think villains range is heavily weighted towards KK for some reason...
12-18-2007, 02:21 PM
vegascoop

Quote:

Originally Posted by griffey24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deanglow

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

yea id fold, all signs point to him having you beat

i wouldnt fold aces though

What's the difference between QQ and AA?

Yah I was gonna ask the same thing, they are like the same hand in this spot.

Unless we somehow think villains range is heavily weighted towards KK for some reason...

Us having AA changes his range a little more than was apparent at first thought for me. QQ is an obvious add to his range as well, but would he occasionally play QK or AJ like this?
12-18-2007, 05:40 PM
noble007

For me, I call the weakish turn bet here I think with no reads.
I think AJs/KQ/A10 could also be in his range.
He could also be playing a flush draw, stop & go style - which actually works very well, call flop then lead turn for 1/2 pot or less, it lets you see the last card cheaper if hero just calls (then if hero had bet turn 2/3) & it gives you fold equity as well.
Marginal though and river is tricky but at least you have pos.