Tough spots...or not so much?

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11-17-2007, 04:22 PM
Chicago_Kid

Tough spots...or not so much?

Ok, so you can probably guess what happened here, but tell me what your hand range is...

1) Opp is 16/3/1.5 through 55 hands, hasn't done anything noteworthy to this point...

Bodog History for Hand #988374425
Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007-11-17 15:16:59
Table 'War Emblem' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: thekidfish ($17.70)
Seat 3: Bombaclott ($14.97)
Seat 4: Y2MV ($21.50)
Seat 5: DaChicagoKid ($30.21)
Seat 6: tilt5051 ($24.70)
Seat 7: jllbj ($15.45)
Seat 8: PHILLY FINGAS ($15.37)
Seat 9: carefulxx ($24.75)
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NEW HAND
PHILLY FINGAS: posts the small blind $0.10
carefulxx: posts the big blind $0.25
--- DEALING POCKETS
DaChicagoKid is dealt [Js,Jh]
laurens sits back
thekidfish: calls $0.25
Bombaclott: calls $0.25
Y2MV: raises $0.45 to $0.70
DaChicagoKid: raises $0.80 to $1.50
tilt5051: folds
jllbj: folds
PHILLY FINGAS: calls $1.40
carefulxx: folds
thekidfish: folds
Bombaclott: folds
Y2MV: raises $2.50 to $4.00
DaChicagoKid: calls $2.50
PHILLY FINGAS: folds
--- DEALING FLOP [Kc,4s,Jd]
Y2MV: checks
DaChicagoKid: checks
--- DEALING TURN [5d]
Y2MV: bets $3.00
DaChicagoKid: raises $3.00 to $6.00
Y2MV: goes all in $14.50
DaChicagoKid: ???

2) Opponent is unknown...recently joined table

Bodog History for Hand #987263384
Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007-11-16 19:35:04
Table 'Green Wave' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: hmmitzmatt ($6.40)
Seat 3: DaChicagoKid ($34.50)
Seat 5: Rayis ($10.80)
Seat 6: kasNrog ($19.89)
Seat 8: rachiedough ($54.05)
Seat 9: FlyFlyfree ($15.70)
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NEW HAND
Rayis: posts the small blind $0.10
kasNrog: posts the big blind $0.25
--- DEALING POCKETS
DaChicagoKid is dealt [Jh,Th]
DT155 has joined the table
rachiedough: folds
FlyFlyfree: raises $0.25 to $0.50
hmmitzmatt: calls $0.50
DaChicagoKid: raises $1.25 to $1.75
Rayis: folds
kasNrog: folds
FlyFlyfree: calls $1.25
hmmitzmatt: calls $1.25
--- DEALING FLOP [Tc,Ts,3s]
FlyFlyfree: checks
hmmitzmatt: checks
DaChicagoKid: bets $0.25
FlyFlyfree: raises $1.35 to $1.60
astro_chimp86 has joined the table
hmmitzmatt: folds
DaChicagoKid: raises $3.40 to $5.00
DT155 has left the table
FlyFlyfree: goes all in $12.35
DaChicagoKid: ???
11-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Deanglow

I honestly can't believe you have so many posts yet are considering folding this. Fold preflop, bet the flop, and don't ever minraise.
11-17-2007, 04:29 PM
daven

bet flop! As played you deserve KK to stack you.
Seriously though, why did you check the flop? Any reasoning you care to share?
also, against a 16-3 who is 4-betting pre-flop you are only playing jacks for set value...
11-17-2007, 04:38 PM
Chicago_Kid

Quote:

Originally Posted by daven

bet flop! As played you deserve KK to stack you.
Seriously though, why did you check the flop? Any reasoning you care to share?
also, against a 16-3 who is 4-betting pre-flop you are only playing jacks for set value...

Probably deserve the kick in the nuts. Hoping to catch his AA on a slowplay, he had been a passive caller...but point taken. In the middle of a BAD downswing after crushing 25NL for several months and my confidence is in the dumps. Set-over-set has been so frequent lately I'm boxing with shadows, and felt KK here big time. Maybe it's ridiculous that I'm even thinking about KK...but I was, which is why I posted.
11-22-2007, 11:01 AM
pantherhound

kid, i remember playing 100NL 6 max on crypto with you a couple of years ago, you started a new roll or did variance fuck you up?
11-22-2007, 07:55 PM
Jimmy Mac

Hand 1 I would bet the flop like everyone says. As played I get it in and hope he has AA/AK. Looks like he has KK here, but what can u do? I see so much silliness at this level I cant even think about folding here.

Hand 2. I dont understand preflop - why did u 3 bet? Just call, make a hand and stack them. Also yr minbet on the flop is strange. I'd just make a standard c bet at this point. Obv Im not folding this one either - he doesnt always have a ten and even if he has one we may well have him outkicked.
11-23-2007, 01:29 PM
FppPro

Personally I like the Re raise PF in the 2nd hand.
You cannot just RR with your monster hands, you have to do it for deception with some lesser hands as well.

Plus, this is exactly how you get paid off when you hit. No one will believe that you have a T and they can try to bluff represent a Ten and you get their stack.

However, I hate your min lead on the flop. just put out a 2/3rd Pot Sized Bet on the flop and see if anyone wants to play.

You seem to make a lot of weak bets (the min raise in hand one, the min lead in hand 2) and you are setting yourself up to be out drawn more often than not.

Anyone with a Pocket Pair is going to be happy to come along for a quarter in hand 2, hit their two outer and then stack you because you misplayed your hand.