2 unusual plays on paired boards

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11-06-2007, 05:31 PM
Irisheyes

2 unusual plays on paired boards

Hand 1)

100NL.
I'm in the BB with 66. Bad reg with 35/9/passive stats opens to $3.50 in the CO. SB calls and I call.

Flop is J:diamond:J:spade:2:diamond: Pot: $10
SB checks, I check, CO checks

Turn: 4:club:
SB checks, I bet $8, CO calls, SB folds.

River: 9:club: Pot: $26
I bet $30.

Hand 2)

200NL, 215bb effective.
UTG limps, I make it $9 with 77, unknown CO calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: J:heart:4:club:J:spade: Pot: $38
Checks around to the button who bets $8. 2 folds and I call.

Turn: 6:heart: Pot: $54
check, check

River: T:diamond: Pot: $54
I check, he bets $10, I raise to $60.
11-06-2007, 05:51 PM
IowaSkinsFan

hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
11-06-2007, 06:31 PM
sauce123

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
11-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Numbr2intheWorld

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Originally Posted by sauce123

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot
hand 2: your ahead what are u doing
11-06-2007, 10:59 PM
mixchange

edit for post misread
11-07-2007, 04:28 AM
Irisheyes

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot

Wait hold on, you think he call with worse? I doubt it.
11-07-2007, 09:01 AM
Ash256

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Originally Posted by Irisheyes

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

hand 1: just bet 3/4ths pot

Wait hold on, you think he call with worse? I doubt it.

I thought you were doing thin value as well.
11-07-2007, 10:12 AM
Irisheyes

I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?
11-07-2007, 10:35 AM
Ash256

If he thinks he's a reg he could well make some hero calls here with A high and better as long as you've been aggro IMO
11-07-2007, 10:49 AM
holdin2

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Originally Posted by mixchange

hand 2 - don't check a set on the turn unless you were raised on the flop when you led...then you can c/r all in.

I think you're mix n' matching his hole cards. I'm thinking Arby's.
11-07-2007, 01:19 PM
mixchange

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Originally Posted by holdin2

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Originally Posted by mixchange

hand 2 - don't check a set on the turn unless you were raised on the flop when you led...then you can c/r all in.

I think you're mix n' matching his hole cards. I'm thinking Arby's.

haha, yeah I messed up. I need the happy hand historys
11-07-2007, 01:35 PM
jackvance

Hand 2.. I have the impression you're ahead, so I'd just call the minbetting.
11-07-2007, 01:43 PM
IowaSkinsFan

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Originally Posted by Irisheyes

I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?

Well it's a two way bet because he's rarely folding those hands anyways. And he'll yeah there's value people snap off any pair here all day.
11-07-2007, 03:16 PM
Irisheyes

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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

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Originally Posted by Irisheyes

I thought I was getting him off 77/88/TT. Am I crazy?

Well it's a two way bet because he's rarely folding those hands anyways. And he'll yeah there's value people snap off any pair here all day.

Well besides the fact that his PFR is so low, I think he bets any 2 on the flop when checked to so they are pretty much out, so the only pairs I beat are 55/33. I cant see any way for him to hit the 4 so I don't think he can have any pairs that we can get value from.

The reason I overbet is because I think he folds 77 way more to a bet of $30 then to a bet of $20.
11-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Irisheyes

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Originally Posted by jackvance

Hand 2.. I have the impression you're ahead, so I'd just call the minbetting.

If I raise I get the same value when ahead, plus sometimes I make him fold a better hand.
11-08-2007, 02:31 AM
benny999

i think in hand 1 ur ahead often, since he'd bet made hands on the flop, except Jx or maybe a big pair. imo even an over bet is sorta thin value vs ace high or random pair of 4s.

id bet the flop in hand 2 mostly for protection. as played, that bet could be any pair since i bet he puts u on AK. a bluff c/r is too thin imo, again i think its borderline for value. i just see ppl call too much on paired boards.
11-08-2007, 03:19 AM
Ravageur

I like hand 1, I think he folds better hands here sometimes and once in a blue moon you'll get looked up by worse. I think this kind of thing every once in a while is good.

Hand 2 is too thin imo.