Too Thin?

Villain is 25/22/4, very aggro reg, I’m not sure what kind of a hand-reader he is though since we don’t have much history and I haven’t seen him make any thin plays yet.

Seat 1: PokerGodOmG ( $423.34 USD )
Seat 2: Thomas64091 ( $402 USD )
Seat 4: mieppaulusma ( $566 USD )
Seat 6: Krapleniy65 ( $275.46 USD )
Seat 5: HERO ( $422.20 USD )
Seat 3: GregAndrek ( $400 USD )
Thomas64091 posts small blind [$2 USD].
GregAndrek posts big blind [$4 USD].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO :kd: :kd:
mieppaulusma raises [$14 USD]
HERO calls [$14 USD]
Krapleniy65 folds.
PokerGodOmG folds.
Thomas64091 calls [$12 USD]
GregAndrek folds.

** Dealing Flop ** :3h: :6s: :qd:

Thomas64091 checks.
mieppaulusma bets [$33 USD]
HERO calls [$33 USD]
Thomas64091 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** :2c:

mieppaulusma checks.
HERO bets [$67 USD]
mieppaulusma calls [$67 USD]

** Dealing River ** :tc:

mieppaulusma bets [$99 USD]
HERO is all-In. (200 more for villain to call into 650)

seems fine given how incredibly underrepped your hand is.

I think its OK. The only hands I am worried about are QT and TT but then you played it so passive that he might look you up with a wide range of hands.

P.S. Your site is rigged! You have KK sooted.

yeah i like that play. do you fold if an Ace hits though? (obv, you wouldnt shove).

Looks good to me. Don't really see him with a better hand other than maybe QT. Your line looks pretty strong, but he's probably not gonna get away from AQ/KQs.

ya i have a special deal with Party where whenever I get a big pocket pair it's suited

that s because I used to get sucked out on so much that I threatened to leave.

when the good regs heard about this, they all threatened to leave as well since I'm the main reason they play

so party just offered me auto-suitedness whenever I get a big pair if I kept playing on their site and I said sure works for
me

everybody's happy

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Originally Posted by Genitruc

ya i have a special deal with Party where whenever I get a big pocket pair it's suited

that s because I used to get sucked out on so much that I threatened to leave.

when the good regs heard about this, they all threatened to leave as well since I'm the main reason they play

so party just offered me auto-suitedness whenever I get a big pair if I kept playing on their site and I said sure works for
me

everybody's happy

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lol



[Insert generic AP superuser reference]

Lol I didnt even notice that.

So, you posted a hand from villain's POV again, eh?

nah this was my hand I just misclicked when I was typing in the suits

The hand converter works for Party now, you know ;)

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Originally Posted by HalvSame

The hand converter works for Party now, you know ;)

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this has exciting implications

i think i just flat it because his river bet seems like either a blocking bet or a value bet that he thought you'd fold to a turn raise.

It's thin, but not too thin imo. I would bet the turn a little more though.

I really don't like cold-calling vs. a 25/22 pre-flop in ep though.

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Originally Posted by zook

It's thin, but not too thin imo. I would bet the turn a little more though.

I really don't like cold-calling vs. a 25/22 pre-flop in ep though.

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because of reverse-implied odds?

I kinda suck and am no where near these limits, but doesn't river lead tell you he hit the river?

Maybe 10's or QT, even a slow played set? oO
Does everyone shove here or is just calling ok?

Bah i don't know about AQ, he check/calls turn instead of leading? Surely TPTK in this position villain thinks is good, would you guys check turn? Is it to keep the pot small?

Sorry for asking so many questions :p lol

Clar

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Originally Posted by Genitruc

because of reverse-implied odds?

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Yeah, partly. It's also that there's value in 3betting if you've been doing it frequently, which I hope you have given his stats and your position. Plus calling invites others into the pot which I don't love. If there's a frequent squeezer behind you it's better, but I never get squeezed when I try that :?

You should be reraising KK pre here everytime against a 25/22 you don't have history with... unless there's a donkey uber-squeezer behind you.

what can villain really have? I dont think a 25/22 is flat calling w/ QT in the SB. TT and AQ probably repop you pre(i assume you run fairly loose?). That leaves 33/66/QJ/KQ. Maybe a call is fine here.

bode, I think you misread the action? hero is in the hand with pfr'er... sb caller folded the flop

yeah AQ got owned hard

the flat-call is good sometimes and here there were squeezers at the table

they weren't squeezing so much that it was hugely +ev to smooth but I thought I could get lots of value on non-A flops from villain's hand and variance smiled down on me

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Originally Posted by zook

bode, I think you misread the action? hero is in the hand with pfr'er... sb caller folded the flop

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:oops:

im so dumb i always ignore earlier street decisions!

Threebet pre a ton unless there is a rabid squeezer behind. I mean your risking playing in a large multiway pot.

I'm okay with flatting preflop ever so occasionally, though I like it more with AK/QQ.

What do we think of villain's line? I think I like ~3/4-full pot bet on the river here. I also think I like a river fold as played. C/C okay in villain shoes too?

if he checks river I'm shoving 100% of time

interesting spot for him

I think his bet-call line on river is pretty terrible

for him to have the best hand, I'd have to be floating him on flop, bluffing the turn, then putting him on a blocker on the river that I'm trying to push him off

I mean if we've been tangling a ton, this is definitely not impossible but without lots of history...

and ya, preflop obv 3-betting is my standard play

but I had a feeling flop was coming Q high what can i say