Blind Pairs

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

How would you have played this? SB is a fish (43/3/1) but I don't have any relevant ranges of hands.

It's hard to put a player on a hand when he donks the river. He could be bluffing or he could have just made a good hand. Your two pair are behind to any K, any 8, any two spades, or QT. While he might be goofy enough to bet with T9 here or as a total bluff, i'd be fairly concerned about being behind. I'd probably call and hope it was just him making a misguided play.

p.s. usually better not to show any action after your decision point (i.e., the fact that he calls makes it pretty unlikely he has a flush, but you don't know when you raise and we shouldn't know that either)

raising the river cannot be +EV

on the river, call > fold > raise

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Originally Posted by DrivingDog

usually better not to show any action after your decision point (i.e., the fact that he calls makes it pretty unlikely he has a flush, but you don't know when you raise and we shouldn't know that either)

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Sorry about that, I should have simply edited out the end of the converted HH. I considered doing this as a two-parter with the flop decision point first, then the river later in the same thread...then said screw it and posted the whole HH. :roll:

So while I'm on the subject, any comments on the flop raise? Otherwise silence=assent. ;) My thought is that someone with a King will probably push back...though that thought is silly at this level. I've been amazed by some of the hands that have NOT pushed back at me, but I guess that's what the "1" part of 43/3/1 implies, doesn't it?