The line i want to take here feels so dirty...

reraiser in the hand is a 15/10 over 75 hands, seems nittish.

He probably views me as a standard TAGG, we haven't tangled at all.

I'm not sure about his 3-betting frequiences because i haven't been paying attention and browsing the internet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($870.10)
SB ($201)
BB ($221.25)
UTG ($118.55)
Hero ($267.10)
CO ($264.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB raises to $26, BB calls $24, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($78) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($78) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB bets $66, BB folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero ???????

I really want to call the turn and fold to a river shove on a blank, but it feels really nitty.

its not that nitty, here is why:

AA and KK have to bet the flop, so does AQ. Only hands I see making that Pf raise (in respect to both positions and his VPIP), check the flop and bet the turn are QQ, 1010, and AK, but 1010 probably bets flop.

If BB is a donk, bet/folding the flop seems good to me.

As played you don't know enough about villain to fold, and i like a turn shove since it gets called more often by K-K/A-A than if you call the turn and bet the river.

I like your "dirty" line, call turn, fold/check river. You beat some hands that bet the turn(AA, KK, TT, or worse), but you lose to a lot of hands that would push river(AK, QQ). Any hand you beat is likely checking the river after your turn call, giving you a free showdown. So you can truly call turn and re-evaluate.

That seems like the perfect line to me. Don't see any merit to playing any other way really.

comon many srsly shove for the love of god. rep KQ or something sunofagoddambitch

Fold. You don't have odds to call to boat hunt and you know exactly what he has. Most of the time I hate hero laydowns but this as good a time as any.

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

Fold. You don't have odds to call to boat hunt and you know exactly what he has. Most of the time I hate hero laydowns but this as good a time as any.

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Dont you dare do this.

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Originally Posted by Deanglow

Fold. You don't have odds to call to boat hunt and you know exactly what he has. Most of the time I hate hero laydowns but this as good a time as any.

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is this a joke?

i bet this flop practically 100% of the time...why is checking better?

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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

i bet this flop practically 100% of the time...why is checking better?

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because we beat AK and lose to everything else.

call and call river im thinking. comeon man, ppl are autochecking AA after rr pre now, get with the program.

call call

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Originally Posted by Renton

call and call river im thinking. comeon man, ppl are autochecking AA after rr pre now, get with the program.

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I agree, AA and KK are definitely possible for a flop check and turn bet. But i don't think this kind of guy (and by that i mean a guy who runs 15/10 and nitty over 75 hands) is shoving AA or KK on the river 100% of the time too, not even close. Probably only 10-15% do. I don't know how to put that into an equity calculation but i don't think it's enough.

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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

i bet this flop practically 100% of the time...why is checking better?

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because we beat AK and lose to everything else.

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But if villain will usually c-bet A-A/K-K, then A-K makes up a lot of his range (few combinations of Q-Q/10-10 left).

Are you thinking villain may attempt a c/r AI on the flop with A-K?

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Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

i bet this flop practically 100% of the time...why is checking better?

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because we beat AK and lose to everything else.

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betting makes some sense for protection. depending on BB, there's 10-16 cards to dodge.